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| | :Documentaries have a tendency to be well received as it is the audience that has an interest that shows up. Likewise if someone has a strong desire to see a film, then they do so. It's the negative end of the scale that gets the most 'phony play'. Unfortunately that is a part of life and we have to accept it, but we certainly don't have to report it. If you look at films generally on the IMDB website, you'll see that 1 ratings are generally reported less than 5% of the time, unless of course the movie is religious or not PC. I guess I could have just included 5% 1 ratings, but I didn't. For those of us on this site, we also have another advantage. Most of the sysops have seen the movie, and we were able to see the audience response first hand. We also know a number of people who have seen the movie and talked with them. The response is very positive, with a few disappointments, about in line with the 8.5 that is calculated. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 22:12, 29 May 2008 (EDT) | | :Documentaries have a tendency to be well received as it is the audience that has an interest that shows up. Likewise if someone has a strong desire to see a film, then they do so. It's the negative end of the scale that gets the most 'phony play'. Unfortunately that is a part of life and we have to accept it, but we certainly don't have to report it. If you look at films generally on the IMDB website, you'll see that 1 ratings are generally reported less than 5% of the time, unless of course the movie is religious or not PC. I guess I could have just included 5% 1 ratings, but I didn't. For those of us on this site, we also have another advantage. Most of the sysops have seen the movie, and we were able to see the audience response first hand. We also know a number of people who have seen the movie and talked with them. The response is very positive, with a few disappointments, about in line with the 8.5 that is calculated. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 22:12, 29 May 2008 (EDT) |
| | :: So if your personal observations are more important than the IDMB observations, why not just simply not remove the latter instead of cooking the numbers? [[User:Wandering|Wandering]] 22:23, 29 May 2008 (EDT) | | :: So if your personal observations are more important than the IDMB observations, why not just simply not remove the latter instead of cooking the numbers? [[User:Wandering|Wandering]] 22:23, 29 May 2008 (EDT) |
| | + | ::: We use the IMDB numbers. Personal observation of multiple people in multiple theaters across the country merely confirms it. Give yourself a little test. Go to the IMDB site and look up some bad movies that are rated low, but not the type that people would get riled about and purposely dog. See the distribution of values for 2 through 10? Does it look anything like Expelled? The distribution curve for Expelled removing the 1 values is for a movie that was well received; the 1 values are an attempt to purposely dog it. We prefer reality. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 01:13, 30 May 2008 (EDT) |
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| − | :::I would just like to say about the comment about PC films, not all of the time are PC films given 1's. For instance, the film "Triumph of the Wills", often considered to be the best propoganda film ever made (in fact, a lot of people consider Expelled to be propoganda) has only 5.1% of the people rating the film a 1 (although, and I know this will get brought up, 5.1 is bigger than 5, I know). This film is very un-PC because of it's glorification of the Nazi party.
| + | ::I would just like to say about the comment about PC films, not all of the time are PC films given 1's. For instance, the film "Triumph of the Wills", often considered to be the best propoganda film ever made (in fact, a lot of people consider Expelled to be propoganda) has only 5.1% of the people rating the film a 1 (although, and I know this will get brought up, 5.1 is bigger than 5, I know). This film is very un-PC because of it's glorification of the Nazi party. |
| | :::Also, what is funny (although I really should not put it in this section), is how much this reminds me of "Ferenheight 9/11". This is because, both films are done from one person's point of view, not showing both sides. Both films are, in their own way, propoganda films (although not as bad as "Triumph" was) because they both premote their own point of views and do not mention (at least from what I have heard), the other point of view in a positive light. Therefore, they promote only one point of view and try to get people to surrender to those points of views. --[[User:Rocky|Rocky]] | | :::Also, what is funny (although I really should not put it in this section), is how much this reminds me of "Ferenheight 9/11". This is because, both films are done from one person's point of view, not showing both sides. Both films are, in their own way, propoganda films (although not as bad as "Triumph" was) because they both premote their own point of views and do not mention (at least from what I have heard), the other point of view in a positive light. Therefore, they promote only one point of view and try to get people to surrender to those points of views. --[[User:Rocky|Rocky]] |