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You say "''advocating the rights of a nation of people does not make me a racist''". True - except it might if you advocate one group's rights entirely at the expense of another group's rights, especially when the group whose rights you dismiss (black South Africans) are in fact the ''indigenous people'' of the area in question.[[User:PeteSC|PeteSC]] 11:31, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
 
You say "''advocating the rights of a nation of people does not make me a racist''". True - except it might if you advocate one group's rights entirely at the expense of another group's rights, especially when the group whose rights you dismiss (black South Africans) are in fact the ''indigenous people'' of the area in question.[[User:PeteSC|PeteSC]] 11:31, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
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Wrong. The Voortrekkers arrived in the Transvaal and Orange Free State first, long before the Bantus came down from their kingdoms to the north.
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Only the Zulus were there and the trekkers, after being betrayed by Zulu King Dingaan, negotiated land rights with the Zulus in return for returning some cattle to the Zulu King which was stolen from him by a lesser Chief.
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[[User:Alfred123|Alfred123]] 11:36, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
    
: I might go along with leaving them to their own ends for reasons of practicality, sovereignty, and diplomacy, but not because "I don't care".  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:33, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
 
: I might go along with leaving them to their own ends for reasons of practicality, sovereignty, and diplomacy, but not because "I don't care".  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:33, 5 June 2008 (EDT)
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