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::I've written plenty about the [[falsifiability of evolution]] on the relevant page.  Intelligent design as a theory is not falsifiable because it's built on a negation;  the theory essentially states that if we can't figure out a plausible way that an organism evolved, it must have been designed.  However, the fact that we do not currently understand how an organism evolved does not preclude us from figuring it out in the future, so lack of understanding = evidence of design is a false tautology.  [[User:Xyrophile|Xyrophile]] 18:18, 7 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::I've written plenty about the [[falsifiability of evolution]] on the relevant page.  Intelligent design as a theory is not falsifiable because it's built on a negation;  the theory essentially states that if we can't figure out a plausible way that an organism evolved, it must have been designed.  However, the fact that we do not currently understand how an organism evolved does not preclude us from figuring it out in the future, so lack of understanding = evidence of design is a false tautology.  [[User:Xyrophile|Xyrophile]] 18:18, 7 June 2008 (EDT)
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:Could you please provide a source for the analysis which boils down ID to the "essential statement" that if we can't figure out a plausible way that an organism evolved, it must have been designed? I've heard that objection so many times that I'm sure there's some famous author we can credit for it.
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:Meanwhile, I think we should retain the claim of ID that "some living things are so complex that they show signs of being designed", which rests on the "take out one part and the machine breaks" argument of [[Irreducible Complexity]]. Just to be fair, okay? --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 18:12, 12 June 2008 (EDT)
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