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:::Ok, you can out it in, just put it somewhere further down the page because it is from a long time ago, and has little importance at this point. --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] <small>(CPAdmin1)</small><sup>[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]]</sup>  <sup>[[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]]</sup> 16:01, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 
:::Ok, you can out it in, just put it somewhere further down the page because it is from a long time ago, and has little importance at this point. --[[User:CPAdmin1|Tim]] <small>(CPAdmin1)</small><sup>[[User talk:CPAdmin1|talk]]</sup>  <sup>[[User:CPAdmin1/Polls|Vote in my NEW polls]]</sup> 16:01, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 
:Do you have any proof he was an addict? Additionally, you put "has allegedly stopped doing them" - why? He is the source for both statements (taking drugs, stopped taking them). [[User:Wandering|Wandering]] 16:05, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 
:Do you have any proof he was an addict? Additionally, you put "has allegedly stopped doing them" - why? He is the source for both statements (taking drugs, stopped taking them). [[User:Wandering|Wandering]] 16:05, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
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::::It's not that difficult, Wandering. A harmful self-revelation ("I'm a drug user") is likely to be true. In the nature of things, a beneficial self-revelation ("I'm nice and clean now") is less likely to be true. It comes from an understanding of human nature, something in which Liberals are curiously deficient. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 16:14, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
    
:I can't quite see how you're planning to use this against him. After all, the current president was also a cokehead and a pothead-- Oh. Nevermind, I see. [[User:DannyRedful|DannyRedful]] 16:08, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 
:I can't quite see how you're planning to use this against him. After all, the current president was also a cokehead and a pothead-- Oh. Nevermind, I see. [[User:DannyRedful|DannyRedful]] 16:08, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 
Tim, I agree with putting it further down the page.  Right now the lead looks bad with all these criticisms.  I agree that it belongs in the article but I think we should make a seperate section for all of this or include it in the relevant sections already there.  We had the same thing on the McCain page.  A lead section full of little criticisms of mistakes in speeches until I removed it.  What do you think? [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 16:12, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
 
Tim, I agree with putting it further down the page.  Right now the lead looks bad with all these criticisms.  I agree that it belongs in the article but I think we should make a seperate section for all of this or include it in the relevant sections already there.  We had the same thing on the McCain page.  A lead section full of little criticisms of mistakes in speeches until I removed it.  What do you think? [[User:HenryS|HenryS]] 16:12, 13 June 2008 (EDT)
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