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Talk:Essay:A Challenge to Creationists (view source)
Revision as of 13:58, June 17, 2008
, 13:58, June 17, 2008→Logically invald: new section
--[[User:JackSmith|JackSmith]] 11:39, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
--[[User:JackSmith|JackSmith]] 11:39, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
:I think you will find that "In the beginning" pretty much would equate to the start of time as we can know it. Also, the ability of humans to make nonsensical statements, and then place God in them, does not define God. "Can God make a color that is bluer than blue?" "Can God make 2+2 =4 and make 2+2 =5?" [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 18:37, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
:I think you will find that "In the beginning" pretty much would equate to the start of time as we can know it. Also, the ability of humans to make nonsensical statements, and then place God in them, does not define God. "Can God make a color that is bluer than blue?" "Can God make 2+2 =4 and make 2+2 =5?" [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 18:37, 16 June 2008 (EDT)
== Logically invald ==
First, you get points for originality. I've not seen this particular challenge made before, that I can recall.
However, your challenge, or at least the "punchline", is logically invalid. That is, it is not valid to conclude that because something cannot be explained, it isn't true.
Further, you haven't explained why the onus is on creationists to show how this is possible rather than on you to show that it's not possible, or that a naturalistic alternative is possible or even more reasonable. The way I see it, it is more reasonable to accept that a being who is supposed to be capable of creating everything did so, than to suppose that everything came into being from nothing for no reason. The former is consistent with what we ''do'' know that for things to come into existence, there needs to be a cause, whereas the idea that everything began from nothing for no reason is ''in''consistent with this.
[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 09:58, 17 June 2008 (EDT)