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::::: Are you saying that only a "scientist" may see the data?  I hold an engineering degree and worked at Bell Labs, but perhaps you have some special definition to limit access to the data as much as possible.  If someone drops out of college, does that disqualify him from being able to look at the data?  I certainly hope that isn't your view.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:07, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::::: Are you saying that only a "scientist" may see the data?  I hold an engineering degree and worked at Bell Labs, but perhaps you have some special definition to limit access to the data as much as possible.  If someone drops out of college, does that disqualify him from being able to look at the data?  I certainly hope that isn't your view.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:07, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
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::::::Andy, only someone with proper training in biology could hope to understand the raw data. You can look at it, yes, fine, but you won't understand it, and you'll quickly demand that Lenski release it in a "clear and comprehensive format", at which point you'll promptly be pointed right back to Paper 180. Your engineering degree doesn't help you here. [[User:DannyRedful|DannyRedful]] 11:10, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
    
::: Taciturn, one more bigoted derogatory comment like those in your first paragraph and the end of your third paragraph and you will earn yourself a block.
 
::: Taciturn, one more bigoted derogatory comment like those in your first paragraph and the end of your third paragraph and you will earn yourself a block.
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:::::: If the peer reviewers saw the data, then it is no problem to make that data publicly available.  So where is it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:07, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::: If the peer reviewers saw the data, then it is no problem to make that data publicly available.  So where is it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 11:07, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
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:::::::In the paper, Andy. Everything that you could need to know about the experiment and much more is in the paper. If you don't believe me, you can ask Lenski for something extra, however general questions like the ones you've sent him so far will only get you pointed back to the paper. If you've got a specific part of the work you want, ask and I'm sure he'll happily throw the raw, incomprehensible data at you. [[User:DannyRedful|DannyRedful]] 11:10, 17 June 2008 (EDT)
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