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::::::::This would seem to come down to a fundamental misunderstanding.  Few biologists are going to want to see Lenski's raw data like this, because the observations will be relatively simple to make - or at least simple for a biologist.  Instead, they will want to examine his methodology (which is already freely available) to see if they can find any flaws.  For example, if he had stored them in a non-sterile environment or something, the colonies could have been contaminated, and it would invalidate his conclusions.  They will also want to see the conclusions he draws from his observations, which might be unwarranted or otherwise explainable.  For example, if they know as biologists that e. coli can use citrase under certain conditions (not the case, actually, but it's an example), they would call his conclusions into question.  And of course some scientists are going to want to imitate his whole set-up to reproduce his result... although it will take a while.  But because Prof. Lenski is a highly skilled and reputable scientist, few are going to demand to see his raw data, because there is little reason not to trust his integrity.  That is generally just not how this science is done, to the best of my knowledge.--[[user:TomMoore|<font color="#000066" >Tom Moore</font>]]^{[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]} 13:26, 17 June 2008 (EDT)

::::::::This would seem to come down to a fundamental misunderstanding.  Few biologists are going to want to see Lenski's raw data like this, because the observations will be relatively simple to make - or at least simple for a biologist.  Instead, they will want to examine his methodology (which is already freely available) to see if they can find any flaws.  For example, if he had stored them in a non-sterile environment or something, the colonies could have been contaminated, and it would invalidate his conclusions.  They will also want to see the conclusions he draws from his observations, which might be unwarranted or otherwise explainable.  For example, if they know as biologists that e. coli can use citrase under certain conditions (not the case, actually, but it's an example), they would call his conclusions into question.  And of course some scientists are going to want to imitate his whole set-up to reproduce his result... although it will take a while.  But because Prof. Lenski is a highly skilled and reputable scientist, few are going to demand to see his raw data, because there is little reason not to trust his integrity.  That is generally just not how this science is done, to the best of my knowledge.--[[user:TomMoore|<font color="#000066" >Tom Moore</font>]]^{[[User talk:TomMoore|fiat justitia ruat coelum]]} 13:26, 17 June 2008 (EDT)