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: I would just like to understand what people think has not been revealed. I do not see why asking that question indicates a closed mind or any such thing. -divaricatum 11:30 June 20 2008 (PDT)
 
: I would just like to understand what people think has not been revealed. I do not see why asking that question indicates a closed mind or any such thing. -divaricatum 11:30 June 20 2008 (PDT)
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:: OK, divaricatum, we're arguing from the same logical basis, so let's proceed.  The underlying data are not in the papers.  The papers have an interpretative summary of the data which may be mistaken, incomplete, or worse.  The underlying data were only analyzed by two people: Lenski and a grad student (presumably under the control of Lenski).  Let's see what they analyzed.  We may see things they missed or ignored.  Or there may be defects in the data that they didn't realize or disclose.  In less than 14 days between submission and acceptance of the paper, it's unlikely any peer review did this.
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:: If this were a court of law, the judge would not even allow Lenski and his grad student to present their summaries to the jury without first providing the underlying data to the other side.  Surely scientific standards have not fallen lower than legal ones.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:52, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
    
==Note re. article==
 
==Note re. article==
 
As an aside, I' wonder if someone couldn't place some information at the head of the article here?  At present, the article simply starts into a "first letter" to "a Prof. Lenski".  The article should have a little setup to introduce readers to what on Earth it's all about.  There is no reference in the article to the rest of the debate, basically.  Just an FYI.  [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 13:17, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 
As an aside, I' wonder if someone couldn't place some information at the head of the article here?  At present, the article simply starts into a "first letter" to "a Prof. Lenski".  The article should have a little setup to introduce readers to what on Earth it's all about.  There is no reference in the article to the rest of the debate, basically.  Just an FYI.  [[User:StatsFan|StatsFan]] 13:17, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
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