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::::::: Apart from the typo, that was ''your'' principle (although I basically agree with it).  You didn't explain why the same principle doesn't apply in the other case.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:05, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::::::: Apart from the typo, that was ''your'' principle (although I basically agree with it).  You didn't explain why the same principle doesn't apply in the other case.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:05, 20 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::::::::These accusations should be in the article. We won't say he is gay, just that a credible source has publicly accused him of it, and he makes a convincing case. People deserve to know that if they vote for Obama, there is a chance they are voting for a homo. We're not making anything up here. It's reliably sourced. [[User:TonyT|TonyT]] 08:44, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::::::::These accusations should be in the article. We won't say he is gay, just that a credible source has publicly accused him of it, and he makes a convincing case. People deserve to know that if they vote for Obama, there is a chance they are voting for a homo. We're not making anything up here. It's reliably sourced. [[User:TonyT|TonyT]] 08:44, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
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:::::::::Tony, "sourced" and "reliably sourced" are not the same thing.  I can put up a webpage that says John McCain is gay, and then post it here and say it's "sourced".  Does that mean it is reliable or in any way accurate?  Absolutely not.  The Townhall article states that he would be the first "gay" president, and compare it to Clinton being the first "black" president.  They're not saying he's gay, but rather that he will fight for gay rights.  The second article, from Huffington Post, repeats conservative smears that a picture showing Obama greeting another male is a sign that he's "gay".  I've greeted many friends and co-workers in the same manner as the photo portrays, and I'm sure many on this site have made the same greeting as well, without being labeled gay.  It's the most flimsy accusation I've ever seen.  Just because it's on the Internet doesn't make it true.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 10:20, 21 June 2008 (EDT)
    
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