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::: The "presumably" point can hardly be disputed or doubted, and I don't agree with the proposition that "presumably" is never appropriate in an encyclopedia.  The citation is helpful because it shows that anti-military support was not guaranteed for Obama, and some pandering was required to obtain that.  Of course, improvements in citations are always welcome.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:19, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::: The "presumably" point can hardly be disputed or doubted, and I don't agree with the proposition that "presumably" is never appropriate in an encyclopedia.  The citation is helpful because it shows that anti-military support was not guaranteed for Obama, and some pandering was required to obtain that.  Of course, improvements in citations are always welcome.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 08:19, 22 June 2008 (EDT)
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If the article is locked by a sysop, wouldn't that constitute [[last wordism]]?  Obviously only sysops can then decide what may or may not be put in the article, becoming the final arbiters on any discussions.  It doesn't seem very egalitarian.  --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 12:20, 23 June 2008 (EDT)
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