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(unindent) For me, part of what I look into is what do the texts of the religion say, in this case the Bible and the Koran, with the Koran also having follow up material compiled in the same time period that is revered by Islam as well.  I've found it's not a coincidence that extremism is common to Islam as it is much easier to follow based on the writings themselves.  In Christianity, it is far more difficult, and so the 'extremists' generally have to bend reality.  Where in the Bible does it talk about the need to be a white European as if that is somehow associated with Jesus? [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 18:45, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

(unindent) For me, part of what I look into is what do the texts of the religion say, in this case the Bible and the Koran, with the Koran also having follow up material compiled in the same time period that is revered by Islam as well.  I've found it's not a coincidence that extremism is common to Islam as it is much easier to follow based on the writings themselves.  In Christianity, it is far more difficult, and so the 'extremists' generally have to bend reality.  Where in the Bible does it talk about the need to be a white European as if that is somehow associated with Jesus? [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 18:45, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

: Spot on, Learn together.  Anybody can ''call themselves'' "Christian", but that doesn't necessarily make it so.  Therefore you need to look at whether their actions and beliefs are consistent with what the Bible teaches.  The KKK doesn't qualify.  The KKK does not have the support of most of the Christian community.  In contrast, I've often noticed tacit if not explicit support for Muslim "extremists" by large sections of the Muslim population.  If the rest of the Muslim population condemned the actions of the "extremists", I'd be happy to say that Islam doesn't do much killing either (only people ''calling themselves'' "Muslim"), but that appears to not be the case  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:14, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

: Spot on, Learn together.  Anybody can ''call themselves'' "Christian", but that doesn't necessarily make it so.  Therefore you need to look at whether their actions and beliefs are consistent with what the Bible teaches.  The KKK doesn't qualify.  The KKK does not have the support of most of the Christian community.  In contrast, I've often noticed tacit if not explicit support for Muslim "extremists" by large sections of the Muslim population.  If the rest of the Muslim population condemned the actions of the "extremists", I'd be happy to say that Islam doesn't do much killing either (only people ''calling themselves'' "Muslim"), but that appears to not be the case  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 19:14, 20 June 2008 (EDT)

== Muslims that kept Semitic or Islamic names ==

== Muslims that kept Semitic or Islamic names ==