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::If the additional data is not on his website by now, I'm sure it will be soon. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 07:45, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
 
::If the additional data is not on his website by now, I'm sure it will be soon. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 07:45, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
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==Off for Vacation==
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Wow, off for a bit of vacation and I find this when I return, I can not believe how far this has gone.  For someone to even suggest testing the bacterial samples without identifying a lab and storage facility is amazing. (I guess not many here know much about -80 freezers, culturing cryopreserved cells, sequencing the genome and associated costs for such work, not to mention MTAs.)  I am a bit ashamed that I was associated in the final reply from Lenski due to the stance I held through out this debackaul. 
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Andy, I hope this finally answers your questions and puts to rest your argument about Lenski withholding data and such.  His response was, to say the least, colorful but informative and provided enough information that this argument can be put to rest.  It is not Lenski's responsibility to train everyone who inquires about his work in the sciences needed to understand such work.  When you could not identify an ARA that should have been an indicator that perhaps you needed a professional biological scientist to assist you.  (A BSE will not get you very far in understanding gene expression or differentiating between bacterial mutants)  Your insistence that Lenski is still with holding data seems to be without limits; what data would you accept?  I believe you are not evaluating what Lenski has said in an objective manner, thus allowing for a limited understanding of the material.  If you wish to continue then I recommend this (which seems to have been recommended by Philip), wait till other qualified labs have evaluated the work then question if the Lenski's work is found to be questionable.--[[User:Able806|Able806]] 10:31, 25 June 2008 (EDT)
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