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Line 132: − − == ProX' edits == − − I reverted ProX' edits, and he reverted them back, so before reverting them again, I'm going to explain in greater detail than my previous edit comment why. − * "'''Macroevolution''' is a term used by [[Creationists]]": True, but (a) it's also used by evolutionists (who coined the term) and (b) is also deliberately ''not used'' by leading creationists. So this statement is misleading. − * "However, scientists do not make this distinction...": As just mentioned, evolutionists ''do'' (or at least ''have'') used these terms. Also, this phrase falsely implies that scientists and creationists are two mutually-exclusive groups. − * "...the overall theory behind macroevolution (i.e. [[common descent]]) has been overwhelmingly consistent with empirical data.": That is opinion masquerading as fact. − * "Predictions of empirical data from the theory of common descent have been so consistent that biologists often refer to it as the on as the "''fact'' of evolution".": Apart from the grammatical error, they do refer to it as "fact", but this is because of their ideology, not overwhelming evidence. − * "Creationists accept that evolutionary change is possible within species ("microevolution")...": Actually, leading creationists ''reject'' "evolutionary" change. That is, change that is ''observed'' is not "evolutionary", in the sense that such changes can lead to the evolutionary "family tree". − * "...but deny that one species can evolve into another ("macroevolution").": On the contrary, leading creationists accept the existence of speciation. − The new "Methods of Macroevolution" may not be similarly faulty, but the title presumes the existence of what the rest of the article now argues is a fallacy! I think that this section would be better off in a different article (although at the moment I'm not sure which one). − − [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:32, 5 July 2008 (EDT) − − == ProX' edits == − − I reverted ProX' edits, and he reverted them back, so before reverting them again, I'm going to explain in greater detail than my previous edit comment why. − * "'''Macroevolution''' is a term used by [[Creationists]]": True, but (a) it's also used by evolutionists (who coined the term) and (b) is also deliberately ''not used'' by leading creationists. So this statement is misleading. − * "However, scientists do not make this distinction...": As just mentioned, evolutionists ''do'' (or at least ''have'') used these terms. Also, this phrase falsely implies that scientists and creationists are two mutually-exclusive groups. − * "...the overall theory behind macroevolution (i.e. [[common descent]]) has been overwhelmingly consistent with empirical data.": That is opinion masquerading as fact. − * "Predictions of empirical data from the theory of common descent have been so consistent that biologists often refer to it as the on as the "''fact'' of evolution".": Apart from the grammatical error, they do refer to it as "fact", but this is because of their ideology, not overwhelming evidence. − * "Creationists accept that evolutionary change is possible within species ("microevolution")...": Actually, leading creationists ''reject'' "evolutionary" change. That is, change that is ''observed'' is not "evolutionary", in the sense that such changes can lead to the evolutionary "family tree". − * "...but deny that one species can evolve into another ("macroevolution").": On the contrary, leading creationists accept the existence of speciation. − The new "Methods of Macroevolution" may not be similarly faulty, but the title presumes the existence of what the rest of the article now argues is a fallacy! I think that this section would be better off in a different article (although at the moment I'm not sure which one). − − [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:32, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
Delete duplicate and triplicate post (a/c Conservapedia playing up)
[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:30, 5 July 2008 (EDT)
[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 12:30, 5 July 2008 (EDT)