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::I totally agree with you on that point, and disagree with Dean's implication (since in my experience racism transcends political affilliations). However I still don't think that what he said counts as an example of hate-speech against African-Americans --[[User:J00ni|J00ni]] 12:22, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
::I totally agree with you on that point, and disagree with Dean's implication (since in my experience racism transcends political affilliations). However I still don't think that what he said counts as an example of hate-speech against African-Americans --[[User:J00ni|J00ni]] 12:22, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
:::Dean also referred to the hotel staff as being African-American in his little joke. That's a stereotype of them as being subservient, always carrying someone else's baggage; they've been portrayed that way in many books and films over the past 150 years. When Dean says that Republicans could only fill up the room with "people of color" by using the hotel staff, he's playing in to that stereotype. If you kept the joke, yet replaced Dean with Karl Rove, then the hue and cry of racism would make the front pages of every paper in the country. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 12:39, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
:::Dean also referred to the hotel staff as being African-American in his little joke. That's a stereotype of them as being subservient, always carrying someone else's baggage; they've been portrayed that way in many books and films over the past 150 years. When Dean says that Republicans could only fill up the room with "people of color" by using the hotel staff, he's playing in to that stereotype. If you kept the joke, yet replaced Dean with Karl Rove, then the hue and cry of racism would make the front pages of every paper in the country. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 12:39, 6 July 2008 (EDT)
::::Firstly on the Karl Rove point, as I am not American I cannot fully relate to your analogy - but I think I see your point.
::::Whilst I see your point about black subservience, I think it is a somewhat tenuous link, and not hardly qualifying as 'hate-speech' (though perhaps a hypocritical inherent racism on Dean's part). And judging by the fact that Dean was not lynched by the audience, it would seem that they did not make the connection you suggest. Perhaps this would be better as an example of Liberal Hypocrisy than hate speech --[[User:J00ni|J00ni]] 12:48, 6 July 2008 (EDT)