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To say that I, I assume you're accusing me of being a liberal, do not stand for human rights and democracy is ludicrous. But now that you bring it up. First of all, is democracy truly democracy when it is forced? That seems to go completely against the foundation of the ideal. While we may have removed a terrible despot, is the human rights situation in Iraq any better now that it was ten years ago?
To say that I, I assume you're accusing me of being a liberal, do not stand for human rights and democracy is ludicrous. But now that you bring it up. First of all, is democracy truly democracy when it is forced? That seems to go completely against the foundation of the ideal. While we may have removed a terrible despot, is the human rights situation in Iraq any better now that it was ten years ago?
:Welcome to the real world. I haven't reviewed the source yet, but will get to it.
:One of the most interesting things to observe is many of the same people who criticized GHW Bush for not removing Saddam in 1991, now today argue he should have been left in place. Can't have it both ways. There must be internal logic and consitancy to a persons views, if one is to be taken seriously. These people can be dismissed as mindless partisans.
:Now we understand ''why'' GWH Bush elected ''not'' to remove Saddam in '91. America was not ready to make the commitment to follow through in place of the vacuum you have so correctly identified and described. After 9/11, when Terrorism came home to America, it was thought now, finally, Americans have come to realize they are in this War on Terror, too. All our European and Middle Eastern allies have suffered it for decades. And pretending (1) it doesn't exist, (2) we can ignore it and it'll go away, is not an option.
:But liberals are deeply in crisis, because their opposition to human rights and democracy in 2003 is a matter of record. As is their efforts to sell Iraqi's back into political repression and living under a terror regime. And for what? What have they gained?
:This whole anti-War movement is little more than middled hippies nostalgia for the 1960s. And they haven't clue now, as they didn't then, what's happening in the real world. [[User:RobS|RobS]] 18:26, 19 March 2007 (EDT)