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:As for the "misunderstanding", perhaps (and I'm speculating here) the editor who put in the bit about thermodynamics is arguing that the 2nd law indicates that the universe had a beginning (with which you agree) and that this could only be by a supernatural creation.  Thus putting those two points together, the 2nd law points to a supernatural creation.  This without bringing "increasing disorder" into the equation.
 
:As for the "misunderstanding", perhaps (and I'm speculating here) the editor who put in the bit about thermodynamics is arguing that the 2nd law indicates that the universe had a beginning (with which you agree) and that this could only be by a supernatural creation.  Thus putting those two points together, the 2nd law points to a supernatural creation.  This without bringing "increasing disorder" into the equation.
 
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:30, 13 May 2007 (EDT)
 
:[[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 22:30, 13 May 2007 (EDT)
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:This is excactly why there must be something wrong with the present models of energy, I belive in an eternal univesre and that it would equalize after so and so much time just sounds to stupid to me. It would also sound like it lacked any purpouse at all, as what reason would god have to create a world which was allready designed to one day loose all its capabillity to manifest?
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:I think the thing that will crush the classical idea of entropy will be the fact that the unobserved created, the spirtual and timelike dimmension is the real orgin for all of the momvemnt on the physical realm, and therefore is not limmited to itself only. --[[User:Nabroon|Nabroon]] 18:12, 24 July 2008 (EDT)
    
A beginning? Yes.  
 
A beginning? Yes.  
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