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::::: Konstanty, you're long in talk but short in citations to support your talk.  Can you give an example from the 15th century of others achieving Columbus's feat, reaching the exact same spot across an ocean as he did?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:14, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
 
::::: Konstanty, you're long in talk but short in citations to support your talk.  Can you give an example from the 15th century of others achieving Columbus's feat, reaching the exact same spot across an ocean as he did?--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 10:14, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
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:::People sailed all over the known world using the same methods.  How do you think they got to India, with a GPS system?  How did the Vikings get to Greenland and back?  These method; compasses, stars, visual observations were basically all we had until maybe a 100 years ago.  Why can't you just admit that?  [[User:MAnderson|MAnderson]] 10:38, 14 August 2008 (EDT)
    
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