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I consider [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Star_Trek&diff=500360&oldid=375262 this edit] to be parody, but will hold off reverting it in case someone thinks that there is something that can be salvaged from it.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:00, 17 August 2008 (EDT) (Administrator)
 
I consider [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Star_Trek&diff=500360&oldid=375262 this edit] to be parody, but will hold off reverting it in case someone thinks that there is something that can be salvaged from it.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 23:00, 17 August 2008 (EDT) (Administrator)
 
:Hrm, I didn't intend for it to come across as "parody", but maybe it was a little enthusiastic. I think removing all of the content was a little far - I was wondering why there's no mention of the clear socialist ideals of the show: working towards the betterment of humanity, with no money etc. If this isn't left-wing I don't know what is. [[User:ChrisSmith|ChrisSmith]] 18:40, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
 
:Hrm, I didn't intend for it to come across as "parody", but maybe it was a little enthusiastic. I think removing all of the content was a little far - I was wondering why there's no mention of the clear socialist ideals of the show: working towards the betterment of humanity, with no money etc. If this isn't left-wing I don't know what is. [[User:ChrisSmith|ChrisSmith]] 18:40, 18 August 2008 (EDT)
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::You think working towards the benefit of humanity is left-wing?  Interesting.  Most of us on this site would consider that to be a conservative idea.  The difficulty with liberals is that if there is a hole in a boat that is causing water to come in, they believe the appropriate action is to keep shoveling out the water - and leave the hole.
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::As far as Star Trek goes, the show is humanistic, showing a society that has gone beyond consumption difficulties, racial differences, entitlements, or national infighting.  Democracy has prevailed and merit rules.  Kirk isn't the captain based on a lottery system.  He is the captain based upon years of hard work and ability.  There is nothing in those idea that is liberal. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 09:39, 19 August 2008 (EDT)
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