The refutation also makes no direct material claims that can be or are sourced...Would it be possible to show a refuted example? --[[User:Ctv|Ctv]] 20:40, 17 August 2008 (EDT) | The refutation also makes no direct material claims that can be or are sourced...Would it be possible to show a refuted example? --[[User:Ctv|Ctv]] 20:40, 17 August 2008 (EDT) |