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Last of all: So what if there are a number of stars that you can represent with seven followed by an uncountable number of zeroes? That still doesn't make any one of them a candidate for a creation story to parallel ours. And water on Mars? For your information, water was the original material of which ''all'' celestial bodies were made. {{Bible ref|book=2_Peter|chap=3|verses=5}} Some of that water might have splashed down on Mars after having been ejected into space in the Great Flood event. More to the point, if water was all it took on Mars, then why don't we have any monuments to a [[War of the Worlds]] fought either in 1899 or 1959 or 2005? Why, next you'll be telling me about a refugee from an exploding planet, a refugee that became a [[God-substitute]] after he rose to manhood from small-town beginnings in the [[United States|American]] heartland. I don't doubt that a number of reporters at [[The New York Times]] must think that they ''are'' Clark Kent, but that doesn't make the name fit any of them.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 16:33, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
Last of all: So what if there are a number of stars that you can represent with seven followed by an uncountable number of zeroes? That still doesn't make any one of them a candidate for a creation story to parallel ours. And water on Mars? For your information, water was the original material of which ''all'' celestial bodies were made. {{Bible ref|book=2_Peter|chap=3|verses=5}} Some of that water might have splashed down on Mars after having been ejected into space in the Great Flood event. More to the point, if water was all it took on Mars, then why don't we have any monuments to a [[War of the Worlds]] fought either in 1899 or 1959 or 2005? Why, next you'll be telling me about a refugee from an exploding planet, a refugee that became a [[God-substitute]] after he rose to manhood from small-town beginnings in the [[United States|American]] heartland. I don't doubt that a number of reporters at [[The New York Times]] must think that they ''are'' Clark Kent, but that doesn't make the name fit any of them.--[[User:TerryH|TerryH]]<sup>[[User talk:TerryH|Talk]]</sup> 16:33, 22 August 2008 (EDT)
:::::I do not know how Occam's Razor applies to any of this since creationism is itself a violation of that very law. If Occam's Razor states that the simplest scientific explanation is the most preferred, creationism can not be preferred over evolution because it states that the most complicated being ever (God) is responsible for everything we see instead of a simple, natural, predictable process known as natural selection.
:::::Next, my statement that water has been found on Mars was not to suggest that I believe that the War of the Worlds actually occurred in any of its fictional incarnations, of which you seem to be quite knowledgeable (Don't forget the radio play in 1939!). I resent that you seem to think I believe in the literal truth of science fiction just because I think their may be life in outer space. Such a conclusion does not follow. If I were to make a similar accusation, I could suggest that you believe that the antichrist will be an individual named Nicolae Carpathia, former President of Romania, just because that is what it says in [[Left Behind]]. Though you may really believe that the antichrist will be a real fixture of human future, of course you don't think that he or she will have the exact same name or background as proposed in Tim LaHaye's work. Talking to me as though I believe Superman, War of the Worlds, and other works of fiction are real is a disrespectful rhetorical technique and I resent it.
:::::Moving on, there can not feasibly '''be''' a center of the universe because of its infinite nature, cosmologically speaking. Despite this, I do not understand, even if Hubble was wrong in his proclamation, what the significance is of our galaxy being in the "center" of the universe. Even if our galaxy was in the "center", our Earth is not in the center of our galaxy. In fact, a massive black hole is. If you are trying to suggest that centrally located things are more important than other things, then, logically, a massive black hole is more important than Earth since it is in the center of our galaxy.
:::::However, I now realize you are correct on theological terms. Now that I think about it, only descendants of Adam will inherit man's sinfulness. You've made me realize, therefore, that any extraterrestrials we may meet will be, by the very virtue of having not been born on Earth, free from [[Original Sin]]. This actually explains why we have not yet been effectively able to make contact; They have not progressed technologically beyond their extraterrestrial Gardens of Eden because they have not yet consumed the fruit from the Trees of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. This appears to be the Vatican's opinion too: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7399661.stm , as well as that of [[C.S. Lewis]] as he proposed in his book [[Out of the Silent Planet]]. With everyone's sentiment I will update the article to include the opinions of those Christians.