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::: Parrothead, if the concept is not important enough to have its own article, then why did you bother with that extended explanation? Surely something akin to that explanation should be in an article about it instead of on a talk page discussing whether we should have an article. That is, most of your comments were about memes, not about whether we should have an article on it. If there is that much to say about memes, why not have an article saying it? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:16, 24 August 2008 (EDT)
::: Parrothead, if the concept is not important enough to have its own article, then why did you bother with that extended explanation? Surely something akin to that explanation should be in an article about it instead of on a talk page discussing whether we should have an article. That is, most of your comments were about memes, not about whether we should have an article on it. If there is that much to say about memes, why not have an article saying it? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:16, 24 August 2008 (EDT)
::::Philip, memes probably should have an article, but as written the article that was here presented the "meme" concept as if it were fact. I don't think "memes" exist at all, the concept is to some degree a way for atheists to explain away the divine intervention of God in human thought (religion and moral values are just "memes" that spread, combine, and change like genes), and to some degree a pop-culture term for things that are better described as jokes or slogans (such as Internet fads and jokes). The two have little to do with each other but are both called "memes". Since the term is a popular one right now, Conservapedia should probably have an article on it, just not one that unquestioningly presents it as fact. Ideally a good article on "memes" would make clear the context in which the "meme" concept emerged - Richard Dawkins' atheism - and cite some good conservative critiques of it. If anyone knows of any good critiques I would be very interested. I am most interested in conservative critiques of political correctness and writings on the culture wars more generally, and am surprised to have not run across much dealing with and dissecting the "meme" concept yet. [[User:Parrothead|Parrothead]] 21:17, 24 August 2008 (EDT)