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:"''..."free will" ...is '''inherent''' in atheism!''":  Yet you fail to explain how.  And you are contradicted by others, such as William Provine:
 
:"''..."free will" ...is '''inherent''' in atheism!''":  Yet you fail to explain how.  And you are contradicted by others, such as William Provine:
 
{{QuoteBox|Let me summarize my views on what modern evolutionary biology tells us loud and clear … There are no gods, no purposes, no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That’s the end for me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning to life, and no free will for humans, either.[http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/4156/]}}
 
{{QuoteBox|Let me summarize my views on what modern evolutionary biology tells us loud and clear … There are no gods, no purposes, no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That’s the end for me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning to life, and no free will for humans, either.[http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/4156/]}}
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: See also [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/5776/ here] and [http://creationontheweb.com/content/view/5928 here].
 
:"''I personally have no problem with accepting that neurochemistry exists.''":  Neither do I.  I was talking about whether that's ''all'' there is.
 
:"''I personally have no problem with accepting that neurochemistry exists.''":  Neither do I.  I was talking about whether that's ''all'' there is.
 
:"''Evolution is NOT random, it operates on a fixed rule which is ALWAYS predictable: Organisms well-suited for their environment will survive, the others will not. It's not a random selection at all.''":  Natural selection is not random, but the mutations—the claimed source of the novel features—that it supposedly acts on are.
 
:"''Evolution is NOT random, it operates on a fixed rule which is ALWAYS predictable: Organisms well-suited for their environment will survive, the others will not. It's not a random selection at all.''":  Natural selection is not random, but the mutations—the claimed source of the novel features—that it supposedly acts on are.
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:"''...naturalism is used all the time in retracing the steps of an automobile accident, say, or a murder''":  Natural explanations can be made of the working of a car, but those explanations say nothing about the ''origins'' of the car, which is not naturalistic.
 
:"''...naturalism is used all the time in retracing the steps of an automobile accident, say, or a murder''":  Natural explanations can be made of the working of a car, but those explanations say nothing about the ''origins'' of the car, which is not naturalistic.
 
:"''By the way, yes I indeed have an employer ...''":  But nothing in that paragraph actually responded to my rebuttal of your argument!
 
:"''By the way, yes I indeed have an employer ...''":  But nothing in that paragraph actually responded to my rebuttal of your argument!
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