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follow your own advice - belated answer to Jimmy
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This article is a complete piece of junk because it has so many contradicting claims.  Every claim that public schools are atheistic or doesn't teach morals is backed up with lousy references that don't support the claim while the entries I wrote used reliable references.  Is there any chance this article can be edited to reflect reality?  I realize some people just can't grasp the concept that students in America's secular public schools are allowed to pray, out loud, even during classes, and are allowed to read the Ten Commandments, etc.  I know this because this is what happens at every public school my children have attended and this is what our current president even says.  Now if you want to claim Bush doesn't know what he is talking about, go right ahead and say he is a clueless fool for insisting that public school students don't have the religious freedoms he claims.  But please post intelligent and meaningful references, if they can be found, that way this encyclopedia won't look ignorant.  --[[User:Jimmy|Jimmy]] 00:19, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
 
This article is a complete piece of junk because it has so many contradicting claims.  Every claim that public schools are atheistic or doesn't teach morals is backed up with lousy references that don't support the claim while the entries I wrote used reliable references.  Is there any chance this article can be edited to reflect reality?  I realize some people just can't grasp the concept that students in America's secular public schools are allowed to pray, out loud, even during classes, and are allowed to read the Ten Commandments, etc.  I know this because this is what happens at every public school my children have attended and this is what our current president even says.  Now if you want to claim Bush doesn't know what he is talking about, go right ahead and say he is a clueless fool for insisting that public school students don't have the religious freedoms he claims.  But please post intelligent and meaningful references, if they can be found, that way this encyclopedia won't look ignorant.  --[[User:Jimmy|Jimmy]] 00:19, 11 June 2008 (EDT)
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:Jimmy, don't make emotional arguments to promote an editorial suggestion; as you say, it's embarrassing. Follow your own advice, such as, "You can do much better than that.  If your claim can actually be supported . . ." --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 11:13, 30 August 2008 (EDT)
    
==Atheistic and secular==
 
==Atheistic and secular==
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