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*Well, that is a productive statement, eh? --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 18:51, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
 
*Well, that is a productive statement, eh? --[[User:TK|<small>Sysop-</small>TK]] <sub>[[User_talk:TK|/MyTalk]]</sub> 18:51, 7 May 2007 (EDT)
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== "visitors who do not appear to support this project" ==
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Could somebody maybe clarify this one? It currently sneak-attacks both the Commandments (by saying that even if you follow all the rules, you can get blocked anyway) and the "we don't block for ideology" comment (though I can't find that page on the fly... been a few days...). This is another ''carte blanche'' because it's so extremely fuzzy. Who gets to decide what behavior counts as "doesn't support the project", and is there any sort of actual guideline other than arbitrary decisions made by sysops who openly disagree about blocking decisions already (as can be seen on the Abuse Helpdesk page)? --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 15:04, 30 August 2008 (EDT)
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:The answers to all these questions are in the commandments and the guidelines. Please consider yourself on probation until you have studied these thoroughly. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 20:34, 30 August 2008 (EDT)
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::I have, and thoroughly. I just assumed that you wouldn't change a guideline to effectively read "For those visitors who violate the rules or violate the rules..."
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::I simply oppose phrasings that are vague, and "does not support the project" ''is'' a vague phrase, especially when it's portrayed as not simply breaking the rules. Going by a harsher interpretation, any user disagreeing with a sysop on a talk page could be portrayed as not supporting the project. Do not mistake my desire for clarity with a lack of knowledge. --[[User:DirkB|DirkB]] 20:41, 30 August 2008 (EDT)
 
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