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::I don't see much freedom of thought in this list - just teaching a kid a series of absolutes and prohibitions.  The entries on teaching them to think for themself, evaluate situations and come to their own decisions were deleted.  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 09:09, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
 
::I don't see much freedom of thought in this list - just teaching a kid a series of absolutes and prohibitions.  The entries on teaching them to think for themself, evaluate situations and come to their own decisions were deleted.  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 09:09, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
 
:::They are not prohibitions, they are freedoms. Freedom from disease, from pre-marital pregnancy, from ruined education and ambition, from addiction, crime and untimely death. Discipline, and self-discipline, is the doorway to freedom and should be embraced. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 09:12, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
 
:::They are not prohibitions, they are freedoms. Freedom from disease, from pre-marital pregnancy, from ruined education and ambition, from addiction, crime and untimely death. Discipline, and self-discipline, is the doorway to freedom and should be embraced. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 09:12, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
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::::Perhaps, but if freedom of thought is to be embraced, then surely this is one of the most important things to teach, allowing the young person to think for themself.  The list as it stands has quite an authoritarian, commanding look to it.  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 09:21, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
    
== Voting Buttons ==
 
== Voting Buttons ==
 
Would voting buttons be a good idea?  My vote would go for "develop good habits", I like that one. After the "fun to decide" one - I wrote that, so obviously it's brilliant :)  --[[User:Toffeeman|Toffeeman]] 08:39, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
 
Would voting buttons be a good idea?  My vote would go for "develop good habits", I like that one. After the "fun to decide" one - I wrote that, so obviously it's brilliant :)  --[[User:Toffeeman|Toffeeman]] 08:39, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
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