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:::I'd think a female would find an insincere or patronizing "compliment" just as offensive.  You're right about chivalry being oriented about the manners of men in their treatment of women, though.  It just seems a shame to pass on an opportunity to teach both genders in a 21st century class about courtesy, manners and respect without it depending so much on which gender one belongs to. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 21:31, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
 
:::I'd think a female would find an insincere or patronizing "compliment" just as offensive.  You're right about chivalry being oriented about the manners of men in their treatment of women, though.  It just seems a shame to pass on an opportunity to teach both genders in a 21st century class about courtesy, manners and respect without it depending so much on which gender one belongs to. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 21:31, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
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::::(edit conflict) That is just wrong, Andy.  A complement is important to all people.  Especially people who are strong, who are intelligent, and who want to be important community leaders.  Boys take and give complements every day and are better for it.  perhaps you mean to say "flattery" where it isn't a complement about something someone does well, but just empty rhetoric about how pretty they are.  Are you truly sitting here saying that you, a man, do not complement your students, and if you do, they boys only think it is hollow or patronizing?  Teachers teach by pointing out the best in each thing they say, and then trying to help make other aspects as good.  Teachers teach by saying "you have really improved in your essay writing (and it does not matter if its Jane or John), but you still need to work on your math skills".  Teachers teach by giving grades that do not just have letters, but well explained reasons for why they were given that grade which *necessarily* provides things they student does well, not just things he or she does poorly.  --[[User:MHayes|MHayes]] 21:33, 2 September 2008 (EDT)
    
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