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But "one is not free to thirst while drinking". So it's not [[true freedom]] to cling to a lie; and I'm not helping you to be free if I stand by idly while you fool yourself. I can't '''make''' a horse drink, but I owe him nothing less than to lead him to water. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 20:02, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
 
But "one is not free to thirst while drinking". So it's not [[true freedom]] to cling to a lie; and I'm not helping you to be free if I stand by idly while you fool yourself. I can't '''make''' a horse drink, but I owe him nothing less than to lead him to water. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] <sup>[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]</sup> 20:02, 1 September 2008 (EDT)
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Ed, can you explain how #12 is not at odds with #8?  In #12 you tell kids that they are responsible for their choices (correct), even if their choice was to listen to others in authority like their government (still correct).  Yet in #8 you're telling them that constant questioning of authority is counter-productive and destructive.  If you are responsible for the consequences of every decision you make, no matter whose advice you were following, how is it wrong not to always be questioning and evaluating that advice to make sure you can live with the consequences? --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 22:03, 4 September 2008 (EDT)
    
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