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Debate: Did the Founding Fathers intend to apply their personal faith to the nation "As an institution"? (view source)
Revision as of 23:16, September 6, 2008
, 23:16, September 6, 2008→Yes, they intended to establish the U.S.A. as "One nation under God"
:Okay, two quick replies. First, I never said the founders wanted society to be secular - only the institution of the government that all of society lives under. Their intent was to create a society where each individual has the maximum freedom to practice his or her faith, and that is not a secular society. Second, this debate addressed the founding of the ''federal'' government, not the founding of any state governments. As I point out in my reply below, Article VI of the Constitution was created in part to ensure that religion would never be a test in holding Federal office. That says a lot about the founders' intent when forming the national government, regardless of their views expressed in speeches and in private. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 19:00, 6 September 2008 (EDT)
:Okay, two quick replies. First, I never said the founders wanted society to be secular - only the institution of the government that all of society lives under. Their intent was to create a society where each individual has the maximum freedom to practice his or her faith, and that is not a secular society. Second, this debate addressed the founding of the ''federal'' government, not the founding of any state governments. As I point out in my reply below, Article VI of the Constitution was created in part to ensure that religion would never be a test in holding Federal office. That says a lot about the founders' intent when forming the national government, regardless of their views expressed in speeches and in private. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 19:00, 6 September 2008 (EDT)
:: ''"was founded by men who were free to pursue their religious faith without the government endorsing any religion over any other as shown below."'' It is not about endorsing any religion. It was about the right of religious faith without government interference aka Church of England. You want history to show that "Under God" wasn't meant to mean the nation was a Christian state. You want to seperate the ideas and inspirations of the Founders from the countries formation. You can disregard state constitutions of the era because it is not federal. I am trying to input that Judeo-Christianity WAS the Founder's intentions. Though, they didn't form The Church of America, they had every intention of combining scripture and government.
==No, they did not intend to establish the U.S.A. as "One nation under God"==
==No, they did not intend to establish the U.S.A. as "One nation under God"==