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: I guess it depends on what one is obeying!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:59, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
 
: I guess it depends on what one is obeying!--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:59, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
 
::J00ni, if you weren't so blinded by [[Liberal]] ignorance and indoctrination you'd be able to see that the two are perfectly compatible. If you conceive of obedience and honourable behaviour as beeing sheeplike, heaven help you. Only through obedience, discipline and self-discipline can one acquire the living skills that qualify you as a 'shepherd'. To allow teenagers the licence - under the [[false flag]] of 'independence') - to do as they please, without guidance or discipline, and you will truly condemn them to be sheep, and sheep that are prey to the ravening wolves of depravity, self-indulgence, atheism, addiction, disease and early death. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]]
 
::J00ni, if you weren't so blinded by [[Liberal]] ignorance and indoctrination you'd be able to see that the two are perfectly compatible. If you conceive of obedience and honourable behaviour as beeing sheeplike, heaven help you. Only through obedience, discipline and self-discipline can one acquire the living skills that qualify you as a 'shepherd'. To allow teenagers the licence - under the [[false flag]] of 'independence') - to do as they please, without guidance or discipline, and you will truly condemn them to be sheep, and sheep that are prey to the ravening wolves of depravity, self-indulgence, atheism, addiction, disease and early death. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]]
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:::Bugler, you worded that far more eloquently than I could! From my side I see no contradiction in being obedient and retaining your individuality at the same time. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sup>[[User talk:JessicaT|''Hajimemashite!'']]</sup> 10:08, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
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