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::You are both, though, seeing this with the hindsight of adult experience. Young people may not be able to take so mature and nuanced a view; dicipline should be accepted, even if its reasons and benefits are not fully understood. And J00ni, if you think that I was impolite to you, your final remark has surely settled the account equitably. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:39, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

::You are both, though, seeing this with the hindsight of adult experience. Young people may not be able to take so mature and nuanced a view; dicipline should be accepted, even if its reasons and benefits are not fully understood. And J00ni, if you think that I was impolite to you, your final remark has surely settled the account equitably. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:39, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

:::Fair cop guv! I still think the sheep or shepherd sentence leaves the door wide open for teenagers following these concepts to question point 17 on principle.  And so it needs either clarification or removal im my opinion --[[User:J00ni|J00ni]] 10:49, 7 September 2008 (EDT)

:::Fair cop guv! I still think the sheep or shepherd sentence leaves the door wide open for teenagers following these concepts to question point 17 on principle.  And so it needs either clarification or removal im my opinion --[[User:J00ni|J00ni]] 10:49, 7 September 2008 (EDT)