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:::::: There is nothing offensive in my comment; it contains no personal insult.  Feigning offense is a common type of [[liberal style]] (see point #1).--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:17, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
 
:::::: There is nothing offensive in my comment; it contains no personal insult.  Feigning offense is a common type of [[liberal style]] (see point #1).--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:17, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
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:::::::I'm not personally offended, they're just words after all.  However, if you don't think that it was insulting to say that my suggestion reflects the view of "an unassertive and spineless person who can be easily intimidated or dominated", then you have an interesting perspective of what "insulting" means.  I'm simply disappointed in the dismissive nature of your initial response, and in your choice to follow up by tossing in a liberal style accusation.  I'm still waiting on a response of substance to the point I addressed, which I managed to do respectfully. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 14:51, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
    
Does #6 say that if both parents agree, that the agreed-upon idea is never a bad one?  Even ignoring practices outside the U.S. (female 'circumcision'), and really far-out practices of U.S. citizens (Jim Jones cult, mass suicide), there's still enough odd practices in the U.S. (FLDS, polygamy, assigned marriage of very young people) that I think the word "never" is probably too strong, though maybe I'm misunderstanding something.  --[[User:Interiot|Interiot]] 14:27, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
 
Does #6 say that if both parents agree, that the agreed-upon idea is never a bad one?  Even ignoring practices outside the U.S. (female 'circumcision'), and really far-out practices of U.S. citizens (Jim Jones cult, mass suicide), there's still enough odd practices in the U.S. (FLDS, polygamy, assigned marriage of very young people) that I think the word "never" is probably too strong, though maybe I'm misunderstanding something.  --[[User:Interiot|Interiot]] 14:27, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
    
: The point is about "bad ideas."  Community or religious practices would be understood as a "bad idea" by parents.  There needs to be a better counterexample than what you suggest before diluting the point.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:41, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
 
: The point is about "bad ideas."  Community or religious practices would be understood as a "bad idea" by parents.  There needs to be a better counterexample than what you suggest before diluting the point.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 14:41, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
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::That sidesteps the point Interiot made, which is that in the types of cases he's cited the parents are typically part of the religion/community that embraces the questionable practice in the first place. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 14:51, 7 September 2008 (EDT)
    
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