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:Reference, yes (though I disagree that there are any real ties); category, no. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 17:34, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

:Reference, yes (though I disagree that there are any real ties); category, no. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 17:34, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

:: You can disagree all you want; it doesn't make it any less true. --[[User:WPalmer|WPalmer]] 17:56, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

:: You can disagree all you want; it doesn't make it any less true. --[[User:WPalmer|WPalmer]] 17:56, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

== FWIW ==

== FWIW ==

I'm not messing with Ed Poor's edits, but the actual name of the game is "Magic: the Gathering." "[T]he Gathering" isn't a subtitle, addendum, or anything else, it's part of the title of the game. Yes, it is often called "Magic" for short, but that doesn't change what the name of the thing is. Perhaps someone with some clout would like to change this. Or not... [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 17:22, 9 September 2008 (EDT)

I'm not messing with Ed Poor's edits, but the actual name of the game is "Magic: the Gathering." "[T]he Gathering" isn't a subtitle, addendum, or anything else, it's part of the title of the game. Yes, it is often called "Magic" for short, but that doesn't change what the name of the thing is. Perhaps someone with some clout would like to change this. Or not... [[User:Aziraphale|Aziraphale]] 17:22, 9 September 2008 (EDT)