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Talk:United States Presidential Election, 2008 (view source)
Revision as of 19:57, September 10, 2008
, 19:57, September 10, 2008→Citation for Biden Vice Presidency Comment
::Edwards would not have been considered after he was first found out. It may not have made the 'mainstream' press for awhile, but Obama's team would have been well aware of its veracity and the hidden bomb they would be holding in their hands. But Edwards removal only left Biden with any real name recognition and desire among the the voters. If Biden was just one of a number of candidates with no one knowing who would be chosen, then why did he specifically tell the press it wasn't him? One doesn't have to throw people off the scent unless they are already strongly following your scent. I'll admit it worked with me. It seemed so obvious it was Biden and then when he took himself out, I was wondering who Obama was going to pick. I didn't realize at the time that direct lies to throw people off the track and build up more suspense was an option. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 15:48, 10 September 2008 (EDT)
::Edwards would not have been considered after he was first found out. It may not have made the 'mainstream' press for awhile, but Obama's team would have been well aware of its veracity and the hidden bomb they would be holding in their hands. But Edwards removal only left Biden with any real name recognition and desire among the the voters. If Biden was just one of a number of candidates with no one knowing who would be chosen, then why did he specifically tell the press it wasn't him? One doesn't have to throw people off the scent unless they are already strongly following your scent. I'll admit it worked with me. It seemed so obvious it was Biden and then when he took himself out, I was wondering who Obama was going to pick. I didn't realize at the time that direct lies to throw people off the track and build up more suspense was an option. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 15:48, 10 September 2008 (EDT)
:::All very interesting analysis on your part, but not a single piece of it explains where the rationale comes in that Edwards was the pick (i.e. through some sort of mainstream news analysis of the process, as opposed to some random blogger saying his name) and when he dropped out it was Biden. If you want to say that because of x, y, and z, Kaine and Bayh weren't chosen, leading to Biden, so be it. Or even some anaylsis on why it was Biden and not Hillary. But to say "With the implosion of Edwards, Biden was expected to be chosen" you need to show that 1) Expectation of Biden was related to Edwards' implosion, and 2) Edwards was even being seriously considered! And that second point has yet to be done, and therefore the mention of Edwards is merely to further taint the article. If you want to maintain the pretense of impartiality and objectivity, something that has been forgotten in the Obama, McCain, Biden, and Palin articles--then we should remove the sentence. --[[User:Jareddr|Jareddr]] 15:57, 10 September 2008 (EDT)