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: Agreed - it's a very poor article indeed. If you believe the theory of evolution is wrong because it influenced Hitler, then you MUST believe that Christianity is wrong because it influenced Pope Innocent III (and various other, extremely unpleasant, so-called religious leaders).

: Agreed - it's a very poor article indeed. If you believe the theory of evolution is wrong because it influenced Hitler, then you MUST believe that Christianity is wrong because it influenced Pope Innocent III (and various other, extremely unpleasant, so-called religious leaders).

:By the way, Stalin didn't believe in Darwinian evolution. That was precisely the problem with Trofim [[Lysenko]], who persuaded Stalin that Soviet plant breeding should be based on the pre-Darwinian idea of inheritance of acquired characteristics - with disastrous results.[[User:KennyMac|KennyMac]] 18:59, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

:By the way, Stalin didn't believe in Darwinian evolution. That was precisely the problem with Trofim [[Lysenko]], who persuaded Stalin that Soviet plant breeding should be based on the pre-Darwinian idea of inheritance of acquired characteristics - with disastrous results.[[User:KennyMac|KennyMac]] 18:59, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

::::KennyMac, thank you for your strawman.  The article never states that macroevolution never happened because it influenced Hitler and Stalin. The article merely states that it influenced Hitler and Stalin in a negative way.  Secondly, Christianity may have influenced Pope Innocent III, but the question is how did it influence him?  Is there anything in Christ's teaching that influenced that Pope in a negative way?  If so, and I don't believe it is so, you have certainly failed to mention it.  Of course, perhaps if the Pope in question was not influenced by Christianity he would have been a far worse character.  Certainly Stalin and Hitler were individuals who were at the bottom of the barrel.[[User:Conservative|conservative]] 20:57, 11 September 2008 (EDT)

::::KennyMac, thank you for your strawman.  The article never states that macroevolution never happened because it influenced Hitler and Stalin. The article merely states that it influenced Hitler and Stalin in a negative way.  Secondly, Christianity may have influenced Pope Innocent III, but the question is how did it influence him?  Is there anything in Christ's teaching that influenced that Pope in a negative way?  If so, and I don't believe it is so, you have certainly failed to mention it.  Of course, perhaps if the Pope in question was not influenced by Christianity he would have been a far worse individual in terms of his actions.  I say that as a Protestant who is not exactly enamored with many of the acts of the Pope in question.  Certainly Stalin and Hitler were individuals who were at the bottom of the barrel in terms of their deeds.[[User:Conservative|conservative]] 20:57, 11 September 2008 (EDT)