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Debate: What is sufficient proof that Obama is a Muslim? (view source)
Revision as of 15:37, September 12, 2008
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Frankly, I don't care if he is a muslim (except that I would think he is wrong just like I think christians are wrong). It doesn't make him a bad person or unfit to lead. But in a christian nation, trying to claim that he is a muslim is clearly a rotten, political trick. <sub>unsigned, by [[user: MickA]].</sub>
Frankly, I don't care if he is a muslim (except that I would think he is wrong just like I think christians are wrong). It doesn't make him a bad person or unfit to lead. But in a christian nation, trying to claim that he is a muslim is clearly a rotten, political trick. <sub>unsigned, by [[user: MickA]].</sub>
:I agree with the above sentiments. This is supposed to be a "no gossip" website, and, by my reckoning, speculating that somebody's religion might secretly be other than what he claims it is constitutes gossip. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms to be made of Obama and his politics without resorting to crypto-racist slurs associating him with Islam. [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 10:13, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
:I agree with the above sentiments. This is supposed to be a "no gossip" website, and, by my reckoning, speculating that somebody's religion might secretly be other than what he claims it is constitutes gossip. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms to be made of Obama and his politics without resorting to crypto-racist slurs associating him with Islam. [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 10:13, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
:The 'Obama is a muslim' myth is one of those annoying stories that will not die, in part because any attempt to argue against it merely spreads it further. If you explain in public 'Some people believe Obama is a secret muslim, but this cannot be true because...' then most people will many listening soon after 'secret muslim.' It is just part of human political nature to assume the worst of those we consider opponents, and ignore the worst in those we consider allies. Thus strongly republican people will eagerly believe any unfounded slander on Obama, in the same way that the strongly democratic are erecting various lies regarding Palin right now. This isn't a left-v-right thing: Both factions do it.
:In any case, it's really unfounded - Obama is not, and never has been, a muslim. There is a rather tenuous connection - his father was an ex-muslim, and he did attend school in a muslim country (But not a religious school), and that's it. He has explicitly said he is a christian, attended church for years, donated to the church, throws in the required references to God in his speeches from time to time. The best argument they can make is to accidentially-on-purpose misspell his name as 'Osama Hussain.'
:I find it entertaining that many of the people who claim that Obama is a muslim also claim his '''christian''' pastor has expressed anti-white views... wouldn't these myths be mutually exclusive? They also demand an impossible standard of proof - arguing that everything Obama does is an elaborate, perfect charade to hide his true religion, and very often claiming that it's impossible for anyone born into Islam (Which he wasn't, anyway) to ever leave it.
:If these theories appear anywhere on Conservapedia, I hope they are removed before long. Criticise him honestly, don't make up lies. It's hardly difficult. [[User:NewCrusader|NewCrusader]] 11:37, 12 September 2008 (EDT)