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Debate: What is sufficient proof that Obama is a Muslim? (view source)
Revision as of 02:56, September 16, 2008
, 02:56, September 16, 2008Christians don't always think the same way.
I disagree and the conclusion that a former Christian, now atheist, doesn't change his name is a bunk association. A convert to Muslim religion always changes their name. There may be truth in the fact that a Muslim that converts to Christianity doesn't change there name. If the 'now' Christian convert had a confirmation, that person would at least have a middle name that was Christian. Obamas religious beliefs are fair game, at the least due to his non-Christian beliefs in abortion and gay rights. At worst, his association with black liberation theology which targets a hatred toward other classes of people based on their religion or ethnicity, another non-Christian belief. A slip-of-tongue is acceptable and not a basis for being anti-Obama. A pattern of these is cause for concern considering his higher education. I do care that Obama is a Muslim. While the vast majority of 1 billion Muslims are peace loving individuals, it is the only religion still operating under violent oppression of women and capital punishment in the name of God. To a Muslim, non-Muslims are an enemy of God. The very fact that in America and worldwide, Muslims want an Obama presidency (even though he is Christian, an enemy of God) is a cause for alarm. BTW, I love the reconditioned format of the Obama page, very nice.-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 12:13, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
I disagree and the conclusion that a former Christian, now atheist, doesn't change his name is a bunk association. A convert to Muslim religion always changes their name. There may be truth in the fact that a Muslim that converts to Christianity doesn't change there name. If the 'now' Christian convert had a confirmation, that person would at least have a middle name that was Christian. Obamas religious beliefs are fair game, at the least due to his non-Christian beliefs in abortion and gay rights. At worst, his association with black liberation theology which targets a hatred toward other classes of people based on their religion or ethnicity, another non-Christian belief. A slip-of-tongue is acceptable and not a basis for being anti-Obama. A pattern of these is cause for concern considering his higher education. I do care that Obama is a Muslim. While the vast majority of 1 billion Muslims are peace loving individuals, it is the only religion still operating under violent oppression of women and capital punishment in the name of God. To a Muslim, non-Muslims are an enemy of God. The very fact that in America and worldwide, Muslims want an Obama presidency (even though he is Christian, an enemy of God) is a cause for alarm. BTW, I love the reconditioned format of the Obama page, very nice.-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 12:13, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
:::Remember that there are some Christian denominations which embrace gay rights and even have some gay people in leadership positions. One reason that gay rights are so controversial is that good thoughtful people have come to different, strongly-held points of view about the issue. One's view of gay rights cannot be used as an accurate indication of whether one is a Christian or not. I would argue that many issues are like this. While one can articulate a general Christian list of viewpoints, people are individuals and aren't always lockstep with the general outlook of their peers. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 22:56, 15 September 2008 (EDT)
::Are you saying that Obama is a muslim and what evidence do you have? [[User:MickA|MickA]] 12:38, 12 September 2008 (EDT)
::Are you saying that Obama is a muslim and what evidence do you have? [[User:MickA|MickA]] 12:38, 12 September 2008 (EDT)