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::::I also can't say I know who Gary Glitter is. We don't have an article about him but WP does. They talk first about his music then about his controversy. I think the question to ask is: Is Woody Allen known as a producer/writer/director/actor who happened to marry his partner's daughter, or a man who married his partner's daughter who happened to be a producer/writer/director/actor? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:56, 20 September 2008 (EDT) PS: Hinky was neither a typo or a spam avoidance. I think it's a real word, but I also have a tendency to make words up.
::::I also can't say I know who Gary Glitter is. We don't have an article about him but WP does. They talk first about his music then about his controversy. I think the question to ask is: Is Woody Allen known as a producer/writer/director/actor who happened to marry his partner's daughter, or a man who married his partner's daughter who happened to be a producer/writer/director/actor? [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 13:56, 20 September 2008 (EDT) PS: Hinky was neither a typo or a spam avoidance. I think it's a real word, but I also have a tendency to make words up.
:::::The moral depravity doesn't come from him being 51 and her being 21. The depravity comes from the fact that Priven was his longtime lover's ''daughter'' and he left the mother (Farrow) for the daughter (Priven). That's not legally incest, but morally it's abhorrent, and no number of "witty comedies" are going to erase that fact. I am siding with Bugler that the "sanitizing" of his actions is inappropriate and makes us sound more like WP than an encyclopedia responsible for upholding family values. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 14:43, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
:::::The moral depravity doesn't come from him being 51 and her being 21. The depravity comes from the fact that Priven was his longtime lover's ''daughter'' and he left the mother (Farrow) for the daughter (Priven). That's not legally incest, but morally it's abhorrent, and no number of "witty comedies" are going to erase that fact. I am siding with Bugler that the "sanitizing" of his actions is inappropriate and makes us sound more like WP than an encyclopedia responsible for upholding family values. -[[User:Foxtrot|Foxtrot]] 14:43, 20 September 2008 (EDT)
::::::All I'm saying is that's a lot of fuzziness, and we aren't a gossip rag. I'm not trying to censor or sanitize, I'm trying to make a credible article. [[User:HelpJazz|Help]][[User talk:HelpJazz|Jazz]] 14:48, 20 September 2008 (EDT)