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Revision as of 13:41, September 23, 2008
, 13:41, September 23, 2008→Erasing threads of inquiry on Talk|Palin
==Erasing threads of inquiry on Talk|Palin==
==Erasing threads of inquiry on Talk|Palin==
I'm not going to go back and forth on the Palin page anymore, but I ahve to ask you for an honest answer to this: You seem intent on erasing any discussion about the Palin rape-kit issue and try to redirect the conversation to what you perceive as press bias, instead of actually addressing the questions and facts presented. If you are so insistent that this story is not true, then why not take up the challenge of rebutting the evidence presented with evidence of your own? When you just erase things you don't agree with, it's an endorsement of them being true - an uncomfortable, inappropriate truth to you, but still the truth as long as you don't refute it openly and credibly. This isn't personal, and I'd appreciate your thoughts on this instead of dismissing or erasing it. Thanks. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 18:09, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
I'm not going to go back and forth on the Palin page anymore, but I have to ask you for an honest answer to this: You seem intent on erasing any discussion about the Palin rape-kit issue and try to redirect the conversation to what you perceive as press bias, instead of actually addressing the questions and facts presented. If you are so insistent that this story is not true, then why not take up the challenge of rebutting the evidence presented with evidence of your own? When you just erase things you don't agree with, it's an endorsement of them being true - an uncomfortable, inappropriate truth to you, but still the truth as long as you don't refute it openly and credibly. This isn't personal, and I'd appreciate your thoughts on this instead of dismissing or erasing it. Thanks. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 18:09, 22 September 2008 (EDT)
:See answer above under the previous time you asked me. You have made me regret that I believed in your initial email correspondence. I will not be fooled again. In the future, your block stands for full duration. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 02:36, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
:See answer above under the previous time you asked me. You have made me regret that I believed in your initial email correspondence. I will not be fooled again. In the future, your block stands for full duration. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 02:36, 23 September 2008 (EDT)
::Why are you treating me like I'm some kind of subversive out to harm this project, or a deceiver taking advantage of your goodwill? We had a back-and-forth over my edits on the Palin page (regarding a subject I won't even mention again with you), and the key point you and Jpatt kept making is that the stories were smears without proof. So I did the responsible thing, and found the proof to back up the point and show it was the truth. At that point my edits were called "inappropriate" - not untruthful, just inappropriate, and I was blocked for reinserting them. When I asked you to remove my block so I could do other constructive things here, I promised to leave the article alone, and asked you to preserve the discussion. You kept your word, and I thanked you publicly for it. I kept my word, creating a project here you commended, and added a last post to the Palin ''Talk'' page to achieve closure. When you removed that you responded as if I had misled you, and I apologize if that's the case. I had asked you to leave the talk thread intact wit the intent of closing it - the last point was you asking for proof because you asserted there was none, and my last edit was to respond with the proof you asked for. That's why others added their comments, which have been deleted as well.
::Okay, enough of the recap. I just wanted to point out that I'm a respectful and professional contributor here, even when people don't like what I'm contributing. I didn't lie or mislead you when I asked to have my block lifted, and constructive things you approve of have happened because I've been back here. I always follow the CP commandment to contribute true and verifiable edits, and simply ask that they be responded to in kind, instead of being erased when they can't. I've been blocked a dozen times for being true to my convictions, and I think the only reason I'm allowed to remain here is that I'm still recognized as a constructive editor who honestly tries to make this project better.
::If you disagree, then feel free to restore my block for as many days left as I had on the original. The only request I'd have is that you pick up and guide the "Questions for the Candidates" project I set up while I'm blocked. That's a worthwhile project, and time-sensitive. Thanks. --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 09:41, 23 September 2008 (EDT)