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, 15:16, September 25, 2008propose rule: use common English name
::the point is that we use the historic English names, and not replace them with terms that came into use much later. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 10:22, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
::the point is that we use the historic English names, and not replace them with terms that came into use much later. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 10:22, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
:::But we don't, certainly we don'ttotally. I am looking at a copy of Hunter Blair's ''Northumbria in the Days of Bede'' as I type, as scholarly a work as one could wish. In it he refers to ''Deira'' rather than ''Yorkshire''; but he refers to York rather than ''Evoracum'' or ''Jorvik''. And I refuse to accept that you would be so perverse, if writing about seventeenth century Australia, to refer to it throughout (rather than mention that it was at the time referred to as) ''Terra Australis Incognita'', ''Eendractsland'', or ''van Diemen's Land''. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:53, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
:::But we don't, certainly we don'ttotally. I am looking at a copy of Hunter Blair's ''Northumbria in the Days of Bede'' as I type, as scholarly a work as one could wish. In it he refers to ''Deira'' rather than ''Yorkshire''; but he refers to York rather than ''Evoracum'' or ''Jorvik''. And I refuse to accept that you would be so perverse, if writing about seventeenth century Australia, to refer to it throughout (rather than mention that it was at the time referred to as) ''Terra Australis Incognita'', ''Eendractsland'', or ''van Diemen's Land''. [[User:Bugler|Bugler]] 10:53, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
:::look at the books listed at the top of this page. They are major recent publications about Chiang and use that name. It's what scholars, writers and publishers do. So let's use the common English name (like Florence), not the rare names that only experts are likely to recognize like "Firenze" or "van Diemen's Land". [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 11:16, 25 September 2008 (EDT)