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Debate:Was the United States right to drop atomic bombs so quickly on Hiroshima and Nagasaki? (view source)
Revision as of 17:42, September 25, 2008
, 17:42, September 25, 2008Mokusatsu
Mokugatsu! Ring a bell? The US was waiting on a reply to a demand of surrender when they dropped the bomb. (Mokugatsu was misinterpreted as "treat with contempt" when it was in fact "answer pending" (not a direct translation)).
Mokugatsu! Ring a bell? The US was waiting on a reply to a demand of surrender when they dropped the bomb. (Mokugatsu was misinterpreted as "treat with contempt" when it was in fact "answer pending" (not a direct translation)).
:Suppose you pull up evidence for "mokugatsu", including the actual translation of this word, as well as the actual evidence this word was used on a message intended to be "answer pending". Your statement is certainly not ringing any bells here. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:00, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
:Suppose you pull up evidence for "mokugatsu", including the actual translation of this word, as well as the actual evidence this word was used on a message intended to be "answer pending". Your statement is certainly not ringing any bells here. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] 13:00, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
::The contributor above almost used the correct word. It should be ''Mokusatsu'' (黙殺), which does mean "to withhold comment" or in even better terms "to kill with silence" - often used in business parlance <ref>http://www.apmforum.com/columns/boye36.htm</ref>. However, it also means "to treat with silent contempt.", but is very different from rejection (''hiketsu'' 否決) (The word comes from ''moku'' = silence and ''satsu'' = kill.). Unfortunately, it comes down to interpretation and context and in this case it was taken to mean that the terms of the Potsdam Declaration had been rejected, rather than they were being considered. <ref>http://www.jstor.org/pss/3635822</ref>. I am sure [[user:RJJensen]] will be able to provide more clarity on this than I can, but those are the basics, with some English documents I found to support.
::Personally, I would rather the bombs had not been dropped, or at worst one dropped offshore would have made quite an impact on an already demoralised population. Dropping both was overkill. Anybody still in favour of atomic weapons should spend a 6<sup>th</sup> August at the Peace Memorial in Hiroshima. --[[User:JessicaT|KotomiT]]<sup>[[User talk:JessicaT|''Hajimemashite!'']]</sup> 13:42, 25 September 2008 (EDT)
===="Quickly"====
===="Quickly"====
== No ==
== No ==
i think that we were right to drop the first atomic bomb, but that we should have waited a little longer than a few days for them to surrender, mabey a week or a few weeks for them to decide, but after that dropped another one (although they weren't relatively that bad compared to all of the firebombings in japan)-[[User:Greenmeanie|Greenmeanie]] 00:24, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
i think that we were right to drop the first atomic bomb, but that we should have waited a little longer than a few days for them to surrender, mabey a week or a few weeks for them to decide, but after that dropped another one (although they weren't relatively that bad compared to all of the firebombings in japan)-[[User:Greenmeanie|Greenmeanie]] 00:24, 16 May 2008 (EDT)
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