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Line 2: − + − Creationist scientist reject the [[Theory of evolution|evolutionary view]] that dinosaurs existed millions of years ago.+ − Creationist scientists also reject the "Great Impact Theory" that a meteor struck the earth and caused climatic changes which caused the extinction of dinosaurs and claim there are multiple problems evidentially with this theory. <ref>http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/docs/dino_meteor.asp</ref>+ + + − Creationists scientists also contend that birds being descendants of dinosaurs goes against present science and also is not scientifically supported with any evidence. <ref>http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/re1/chapter4.asp</ref> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Line 28:
Line 49: − − ==Evolutionary Perspective== − − ===Extinction=== − − According to [[Theory of evolution|evolutionary]] scientists, close to 65 million years ago, at the end of the [[Cretaceous]] period, and the beginning of what we call the [[Tertiary]] period, an event occurred which has come to be known as the [[K-T Event]]. Evolutionary scientists claim this event obliterated most life on Earth, plunging the world into something that would now be likened to global nuclear winter, through which few extant species could survive. Although scientists dispute the nature of the K-T Event (selecting among any number of catastrophes that could have caused the significant global cooling that resulted), most find that the claimed K-T Event was caused by the collision of a massive asteroid with the Earth, the dust and debris from which shrouded the sky for thousands of years, cooling Earth considerably.<ref>Kevin O Pope, "Meteorite impact and the mass extinction of species at the Cretaceous/Tertiary boundary," Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, available at http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/full/95/19/11028</ref> According to evolutionary scientists, the dinosaurs did not survive this cataclysm.<ref>National Geographic, http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/08/0823_020823_asteroid.html</ref> Evolutionary scientists claim that evidence of the dust that caused this long winter is still visible, though, as a line of metal of extraterrestrial origin is often visible in sediment worldwide, occurring as a result of the vaporization and then fall of dust from the meteorite's impact, and its compression within the subsequent geological record.<ref>''Ibid.''</ref> The crater is also visible.<ref>National Geographic, http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/03/0307_030307_impactcrater.html</ref> − − ===Cambrian Life Explosion=== − According to evolutionary scientists, the extinction of the dinosaurs removed a major food competitor, and predator, of smaller animals. These scientists claim that as a result of a new "vacancy" in the food chain, following the [[K-T Event]], vast speciation occurred, as the evolutionary pressure of a new cold age propelled animal species to adapt or die out. According to evolutionary scientists, what we now know as [[mammals]] were some of the main beneficiaries of this explosion: their fur allowed them to adapt to the cold, and their small size allowed them to conserve energy relative to the huge dinosaurs of the previous age.<ref>Bennet, Shostak, Jakotsky, "Life in the Universe," viewable at http://www.amazon.com/Life-Universe-Jeffrey-Bennett/dp/0805385770</ref> − − ===Dinosaurs and Birds=== − − As a number of feathered dinosaur fossils have been discovered, and the similarity in the bone structure between birds and dinosaurs, evolutionary scientists contend that modern birds are a descendant of dinosaurs. This is cited as an example of [[macroevolution]].<ref>National Geographic, "New Dinosaur Discovered: T-Rex Cousin Had Feathers," http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/10/1006_041006_feathery_dino.html</ref> − − ===Dinosaur Speciation=== − Dinosaur species were immensely varied, from herbivores to carnivores. Although many have been found in the fossil record, paleontologists expect that they have barely scratched the surface of the vast genus that the dinosaurs encompassed.<ref>National Geographic, http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/09/060905-dinosaurs_2.html</ref>
SYSOPS again please read my message on the talk page. The evolutionists first have to agree first to the compromise. If they don't, the edit warring will continue
==Creationist Perspective==
==Creationist Scientists Perspective==
Creationist scientists believe that dinosaurs and man coexisted which they claim is based on a number of pieces of evidence. <ref>http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dinosaurs.asp</ref>
Creationist scientists believe that dinosaurs and man coexisted which they claim is based on a number of pieces of evidence. <ref>http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/dinosaurs.asp</ref>
They reject the [[Theory of evolution|evolutionary view]] that dinosaurs existed millions of years ago.
They also reject the "Great Impact Theory" that a meteor struck the earth and caused climatic changes which caused the extinction of dinosaurs and claim there are multiple problems evidentially with this theory. <ref>http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/faq/docs/dino_meteor.asp</ref>
Creationist scientists also contend that birds being descendants of dinosaurs is unreasonable and is also is not scientifically supported with any evidence. <ref>http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/re1/chapter4.asp</ref><ref>http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v26/i1/planes.asp</ref>
In addition, creationists cite the current online World Book Encyclopedia which states:
In addition, creationists cite the current online World Book Encyclopedia which states:
"No fossil of any such birdlike reptile has yet been found." <ref>http://creationwiki.org/Fossil_record_quotes</ref><ref>http://www.worldbookonline.com/wb/Students?content_spotlight/dinosaurs/creatures_birds</ref>
"No fossil of any such birdlike reptile has yet been found." <ref>http://creationwiki.org/Fossil_record_quotes</ref><ref>http://www.worldbookonline.com/wb/Students?content_spotlight/dinosaurs/creatures_birds</ref>
Creationist scientists Dr. [[Jonathon Safarti]] wrote regarding dinosaurs being descendants of bird the following:
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The same logic applies to the dinosaur-[[Bird|bird]] debate. It is perfectly in order for creationists to cite [[Alan Feduccia|Feduccia]]’s devastating criticism against the idea that birds evolved ‘ground up’ from running dinosaurs (the cursorial theory). But the dino-to-bird advocates counter with equally powerful arguments against Feduccia’s ‘trees-down’ (arboreal) theory. The evidence indicates that the critics are ''both'' right — birds did not evolve either from running dinos or from tree-living mini-crocodiles. In fact, birds did not evolve from non-birds at all!
<ref>http://www.answersingenesis.org/news/scientific_american.asp</ref>
</blockquote>
Creationists also cite the evolutionist [[Ernst Mayr]] who in 1942 stated the following:
“It must be admitted, however, that it is a considerable strain on one’s credulity to assume that finely balanced systems such as certain sense organs (the eye of vertebrates, or the bird’s feather) could be improved by random mutations." <ref>http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/ReferencesandNotes10.html</ref>
Creationist scientists also cite the March 2003 issue of Scientific American which stated:
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"The origin of feathers is a specific instance of the much more general question of the origin of evolutionary novelties--structures that have no clear antecedents in ancestral animals and no clear related structures (homologues) in contemporary relatives. Although evolutionary theory provides a robust explanation for the appearance of minor variations in the size and shape of creatures and their component parts, it does not yet give as much guidance for understanding the emergence of entirely new structures, including digits, limbs, eyes and feathers'''...." <ref>http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2003/0313sciam.asp</ref><ref>http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000CD7F6-B16F-1E41-89E0809EC588EEDF</ref>
</blockquote>
===Humans and Dinosaurs Coexisting===
===Humans and Dinosaurs Coexisting===
Because the term only came into use in the 19th century, the [[Bible]] obviously does not use the word "dinosaur." However, they are alleged to be mentioned in numerous places throughout the biblical account. For example, the '''behemoth''' in [[Job]] and the '''leviathan''' in [[Isaiah]] are sometimes said to be references to dinosaurs,<ref>[http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/behemoth.asp "Could Behemoth have been a dinosaur?"], ''TJ'' 15(2):42–45, August 2001</ref> <ref>http://www.answersincreation.org/job4041a.htm</ref>, although some reject this view, saying that behemoth was a hippopotamus and leviathan was a crocodile. There is a problem with this view, however, such as the fact that a hippo doesn't have a "tail like a cedar" and a crocodile does not accurately match the description of leviathan.
Because the term only came into use in the 19th century, the [[Bible]] obviously does not use the word "dinosaur." However, they are alleged to be mentioned in numerous places throughout the biblical account. For example, the '''behemoth''' in [[Job]] and the '''leviathan''' in [[Isaiah]] are sometimes said to be references to dinosaurs,<ref>[http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/behemoth.asp "Could Behemoth have been a dinosaur?"], ''TJ'' 15(2):42–45, August 2001</ref> <ref>http://www.answersincreation.org/job4041a.htm</ref>, although some reject this view, saying that behemoth was a hippopotamus and leviathan was a crocodile. There is a problem with this view, however, such as the fact that a hippo doesn't have a "tail like a cedar" and a crocodile does not accurately match the description of leviathan.
==References==
==References==