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This is an interesting subject.  One of the most common argument's for God's existence is some form of the 'watchmaker' analogy - I.E. that the existence of the universe implies that it was created & therefore the existence of a creator (God).  Does the existence of God also imply that He was created?  And if not, why not?  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 10:04, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
 
This is an interesting subject.  One of the most common argument's for God's existence is some form of the 'watchmaker' analogy - I.E. that the existence of the universe implies that it was created & therefore the existence of a creator (God).  Does the existence of God also imply that He was created?  And if not, why not?  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 10:04, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
 
: The watchmaker analogy is referring to something that was obviously designed because of it's complexity of multiple interacting parts that would not occur naturally.  God is not a complexity of multiple interacting parts, so the same argument does not apply to him.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:09, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
 
: The watchmaker analogy is referring to something that was obviously designed because of it's complexity of multiple interacting parts that would not occur naturally.  God is not a complexity of multiple interacting parts, so the same argument does not apply to him.  [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 10:09, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
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::There are many examples of complex interacting ecosystems occurring naturally.  But of course the watchmaker analogy would suggest that these are in fact created.  That is the problem with the waychmaker argument - it suggest that what seems to occur naturally actually doesn't occur naturally.  It cannot be disproved, but it only proves itself if it assumes itself to be true.  [[User:Sideways|Sideways]] 10:21, 28 September 2008 (EDT)
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