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People who believe in predestination will sometimes cite Ephesians 2:8-9 in support of their beliefs:
People who believe in predestination will sometimes cite Ephesians 2:8-9 in support of their beliefs:
<blockquote>For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (KJV)</blockquote> Several verses in Romans 8 are also used to support this view.
<blockquote>For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. (KJV)</blockquote> Several verses in Romans 8 are also used to support this view.
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*[http://tcrnews2.com/predestination.html Ruminating on Laughter and Predestination]