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| | Could someone check the other edits by [[User:RJJensen]]? He expanded this article by adding a lot of sections, but there was one place he put that Spencer was a [[civil engineer]], with the sarcastic footnote that Spencer was "not the engineer of a [[train]]." I think he's trying to poke fun at Conservapedia here by implying that Americans don't know the difference between a civil engineer and a train engineer. I'll look over his other edits to this article and reinstate anything that checks out. -[[User:Golfpro|Golfpro]] 21:38, 5 October 2008 (EDT) | | Could someone check the other edits by [[User:RJJensen]]? He expanded this article by adding a lot of sections, but there was one place he put that Spencer was a [[civil engineer]], with the sarcastic footnote that Spencer was "not the engineer of a [[train]]." I think he's trying to poke fun at Conservapedia here by implying that Americans don't know the difference between a civil engineer and a train engineer. I'll look over his other edits to this article and reinstate anything that checks out. -[[User:Golfpro|Golfpro]] 21:38, 5 October 2008 (EDT) |
| − | ::well I did put that in because one source I looked at said he was a train engineer so I wanted to avoid any confusion. The information I added is pretty straightforward and is based on the spurces listed, especially the Dict National Bio article and the Duncan biography (which is quite favorable). But not to confuse anyone we can drop the footnote. :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 21:46, 5 October 2008 (EDT) | + | ::well I did put that in because one source I looked at said he was a train engineer so I wanted to avoid any confusion. The information I added is pretty straightforward and is based on the sources listed, especially the Dict National Bio article and the Duncan biography (which is quite favorable). But not to confuse anyone we can drop the footnote. :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 21:46, 5 October 2008 (EDT) |
| | ::Spencer's grave is near a lot of famous people including Marx--but it's pure coincidence. Lot of people contributed ideas to social darwinism in the 75 years between Spencer's coining of the term and the Nazis; there is no connection between Spencer's ideas on evolution and those that the Nazis picked up from other people. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 22:12, 5 October 2008 (EDT) | | ::Spencer's grave is near a lot of famous people including Marx--but it's pure coincidence. Lot of people contributed ideas to social darwinism in the 75 years between Spencer's coining of the term and the Nazis; there is no connection between Spencer's ideas on evolution and those that the Nazis picked up from other people. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 22:12, 5 October 2008 (EDT) |
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| | You say, "Spencer is a hero to many American conservatives..." Name one. Spencer supported [[Darwinism]] and [[Social Darwinism]] and corresponded with Marx; I don't think he'd be much of a hero figure to Conservatives, at least in [[America]]. Also, it's spelled "cemetery", not "cemetary". -[[User:Golfpro|Golfpro]] 22:37, 5 October 2008 (EDT) | | You say, "Spencer is a hero to many American conservatives..." Name one. Spencer supported [[Darwinism]] and [[Social Darwinism]] and corresponded with Marx; I don't think he'd be much of a hero figure to Conservatives, at least in [[America]]. Also, it's spelled "cemetery", not "cemetary". -[[User:Golfpro|Golfpro]] 22:37, 5 October 2008 (EDT) |
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| | + | ==Spencer as conservative== |
| | + | Did Spencer correspond with Marx??? False. there’s no mention in his biographies or his life and letters or his autobiography—and no mention in the major biographies of Marx. |
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| | + | See Chris Matthew Sciabarra "The First Libertarian," Liberty (aug 1999) [http://www.nyu.edu/projects/sciabarra/essays/spencer.htm online] he says the author of The Man Versus the State transcended simple-minded anti-statism to achieve the first major statement of dialectical libertarianism. |
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| | + | See [http://oll.libertyfund.org/?option=com_staticxt&staticfile=show.php%3Fperson=165&Itemid=28 Libert Fund hails him as "one of the leading 19th century English radical individualists." And reprints some of his books and essays] |
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| | + | See [http://www.thectr.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=LPOS1&Category_Code=HbS Libertarian Press reprints his books] |
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| | + | See [http://books.google.com/books?id=cMs6OaHu6iEC&pg=PA149&lpg=PA149&dq=libertarian++%22herbert+Spencer%22&source=web&ots=6DHI1Q5ELc&sig=-GC3r-3212LP4oVMROJrizBych8&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=26&ct=result Libertarian Reader reprints his essay] [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 23:43, 5 October 2008 (EDT) |