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plagiarism = academic fraud
::plagiarism requires fraud (ie the claim "I did this work myself") and with no fraud there is no plagiarism. Quotation marks are merely tracking devices that schools insist on so they can identify and prove plagiarism charges against students. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 15:49, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
::plagiarism requires fraud (ie the claim "I did this work myself") and with no fraud there is no plagiarism. Quotation marks are merely tracking devices that schools insist on so they can identify and prove plagiarism charges against students. [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 15:49, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
:::Are you serious with this? That plagiarism does not apply outside the academic environment?--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] 16:36, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
:::Are you serious with this? That plagiarism does not apply outside the academic environment?--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] 16:36, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
::::yes--in the real world executives have their speeches and reports ghostwritten and then they sign them. (But Biden got embarrassed once when he copied a British speech in which the Brit talked about his ancestors--who were of course not Biden's ancestors. :) [[User:RJJensen|RJJensen]] 18:11, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
== Plagiarism and the law ==
== Plagiarism and the law ==
I'm pretty sure plagiarism and copyright infringement are different beasts. Plagiarism is a failure to give credit where credit is due (cite, as in a paper). Copyright infringement is using copyrighted material without authorization or compensation. Plagiarism is against the academic code, but not the legal code. Vice versa for copyvio. [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 14:09, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
I'm pretty sure plagiarism and copyright infringement are different beasts. Plagiarism is a failure to give credit where credit is due (cite, as in a paper). Copyright infringement is using copyrighted material without authorization or compensation. Plagiarism is against the academic code, but not the legal code. Vice versa for copyvio. [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 14:09, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
: Nevermind -- I misunderstood your correction -- you're right. [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 14:12, 7 October 2008 (EDT)
: Nevermind -- I misunderstood your correction -- you're right. [[User:Ungtss|Ungtss]] 14:12, 7 October 2008 (EDT)