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:Hopefully there is information in the article itself that would help one to see the validity of the statements. It would be hard to 'cite' the entire article. That John McCain was considered to be the Democratic Vice Presidential candidate on the 2004 ticket should tell you that he's a maverick. As far as being a leader, any of the numerous bills that he has put forth and pushed for already show that. When you tackle an issue like campaign finance reform, that would annoy both parties, and you actually get it to take a position of prominence under your leadership, then we are allowed to acknowledge that as leadership. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:06, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
:Hopefully there is information in the article itself that would help one to see the validity of the statements. It would be hard to 'cite' the entire article. That John McCain was considered to be the Democratic Vice Presidential candidate on the 2004 ticket should tell you that he's a maverick. As far as being a leader, any of the numerous bills that he has put forth and pushed for already show that. When you tackle an issue like campaign finance reform, that would annoy both parties, and you actually get it to take a position of prominence under your leadership, then we are allowed to acknowledge that as leadership. [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 14:06, 8 October 2008 (EDT)
== Reversion ==
When Obama admits how poorly he did in college, then let's say the same about McCain.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 20:39, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
:He was elected President of the Harvard Law Review and graduated Magna Cum Laude. Not sure how that qualifies doing "poorly." --[[User:AndrasK|AndrasK]] 20:56, 1 October 2008 (EDT)
:: So ... you're admitting to hiding the truth? --[[User:JonPdh|JonPdh]] 12:01, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
::Take it up with the site owner Aschlafly-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 12:03, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
:::With all due respect, that's sort of a cop-out answer. It kind of gives the impression that you're not really doing much thinking while performing as a sysop, you're just kinda giving orders you don't agree with. --[[User:JonPdh|JonPdh]] 12:07, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
:::I have already thought about it and agree with Aschlafly. If somebody before you tried to add it and it was removed, what makes you think that you can re-add? Your only contribution to this site was a remark about McCain's education. We allow liberal editors here and we allow unflattering remarks about Republicans. That is just a cheap shot. -- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 12:13, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
::::But aren't we having this conversation because you actually don't allow unflattering remarks about Republicans? The quantity of my contributions shouldn't matter - we're talking about factually correct information that is being kept out of our encyclopedia for reasons that really don't make any sense. --[[User:JonPdh|JonPdh]] 12:17, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
::::I guess you haven't been here long enough. Here is a page created a flaming liberal about a Republican, [[Buz_Lukens]]. Tell me if this is flattering. Like I said before, take your beef with the administrator if you don't like the results. Not everything a liberal wants, they get. You can find all glorified liberals and all slandered conservatives on Wikipedia's website. Might be best for you.-- [[Image:50 star flag.png|14px]] [[User:Jpatt|jp]] 12:43, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
:::::We're building an encyclopedia, and you're worried more about whether a contribution comes from a liberal or a conservative, as opposed to whether or not its true. Don't you think that's kind of messed up? --[[User:JonPdh|JonPdh]] 13:01, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
==what's the deal?==
Why is our discussion of McCain framed completely by Obama's actions? The two are not inherently linked in any significant way - they are just two people trying to get the same job. --[[User:JonPdh|JonPdh]] 12:00, 2 October 2008 (EDT)
: "JonPdh", this isn't Wikipedia, where liberal points of view are pushed while conservative truths are censored. As I indicated, when you explain and emphasize how poorly Obama did in college, then you can make a similar claim about McCain. We don't allow biased presentations here.
: Also, abide by our [[90/10 rule]] or your account will be blocked. Godspeed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Aschlafly]] 09:12, 3 October 2008 (EDT)
::Correct, this is Conservapedia, where conservative points of view are pushed and liberal truths are censored. Only conservatively biased presentations are allowed. Happy editing!--[[User:IanG|IanG]] 11:23, 3 October 2008 (EDT)