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→Plagiarism: More about plagiarism and fair use.
:::: So sorry, I don't agree: It is not "the entire thing" although it is an important part. Better than "depriving the author of appropriate compensation" we could be sending readers to his site. We are acting according with the copyrights as we are not claiming that part to be our original writing but the author's and giving a link to his site. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 19:51, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
:::: So sorry, I don't agree: It is not "the entire thing" although it is an important part. Better than "depriving the author of appropriate compensation" we could be sending readers to his site. We are acting according with the copyrights as we are not claiming that part to be our original writing but the author's and giving a link to his site. --[[User:Joaquín Martínez]], [[User talk:Joaquín Martínez|talk]] 19:51, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
:::::Joaquin - I stand corrected. You did not copy the entire article. My apologies. The article, Ten Arguments For Abortion and Against Abortion, included a list of ten pro-life arguments and a list of ten pro-choice arguments. You copied only the ten pro-life arguments. Nevertheless, this constitutes fifty percent of the article - a substantial part, and as you noted an important part. I do not see how this is not copyright infringement. Joseph Gibaldi, in the Plagiarism chapter of the ''MLA Handbook for Writers of Research Papers'', writes "...reproducing and distributing an entire copyrighted document or significant portions of it without obtaining permission to do so from the author or publisher is an infringement of copyright law and a legal offense, even if the violator acknowledges the source. This is true for documents published on the Internet or in print."<ref>''MLA Handbook for Writers of Research Papers'', 6th Edition, by Joseph Gibaldi, The Modern Language Association of America, New York, 2003, p. 74</ref> "Fair use", as I understand it, does not apply when you copy a significant portion of a work. I assume that you did not intend to be unethical or to plagiarize. I'm sure that you didn't realize that avoiding copyright infringement involves more than just mentioning the original author. There are other issues with this section too; for example, you did not mention any of the references from the original article, nor did you include references for any of the facts mentioned in the "ten arguments". This section needs to be removed promptly, lest Conservapedia be taken to task by the original author for copyright infringement. Why not write your own "Ten Arguments", with properly researched and sourced facts? While it takes significantly more time and skill than cutting and pasting, it will no doubt result in a much better article - and isn't that the goal? --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 23:01, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
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I appreciate that the grammar of my edit was suspect at best (I blame the lateness of the edit), but I think that the fact that taking of life has to be with malice for a civilised society to not condone it. As many civilised societies permit capital punishment. Sure having that fact there weakens the arguement made in the point, but not having it there will mean that many people will reject it out of hand --[[User:J00ni|J00ni]] 04:50, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
I appreciate that the grammar of my edit was suspect at best (I blame the lateness of the edit), but I think that the fact that taking of life has to be with malice for a civilised society to not condone it. As many civilised societies permit capital punishment. Sure having that fact there weakens the arguement made in the point, but not having it there will mean that many people will reject it out of hand --[[User:J00ni|J00ni]] 04:50, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
: I agree, and would reinstate your change, except that I'm going to delete the whole section as discussed in the ''Plagiarism'' section above. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:49, 11 October 2008 (EDT)
: I agree, and would reinstate your change, except that I'm going to delete the whole section as discussed in the ''Plagiarism'' section above. [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 07:49, 11 October 2008 (EDT)