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Line 1: − == Suicide is a crime? == − − I'm going to look for more information to verify this, but as far as I know, most 1st world countries do not criminalize suicide. I think it would be more accurately stated as "suicide was once considered criminal in many countries, but many of these laws have been overturned" with a list of countries in which it IS a crime. The only thing I know that is criminal about suicide in the United States (where I live) is to assist in a suicide or incite someone to suicide. − − I'll try and find more information on this, but I may clean up the article (and expand to include mental illness, Durkheim, etc.) in a couple of days based on Russel's Teapot. If anyone has a problem with this, please post on my talk page or respond here -- I still unsure of the rules here, and so I don't know if Russel's Teapot is enough to back up an edit. Thanks!--[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 11:53, 12 October 2008 (EDT) − − :: I don't mean to imply that Russel's Teapot is all I would be using -- just what I am using to initially begin a rewriting of the criminal aspect. I will also rely on the work of Durkheim, Alvarez, and others. I will cite my sources:) --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 11:54, 12 October 2008 (EDT) − Line 92:
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== Killing Oneself v. Suicide ==
== Killing Oneself v. Suicide ==
We should include some information about demoralization due to anti-war politician's activities. During Vietnam, many soldiers began to doubt the cause they were fighting for due to the debate that raged at home, and many turned to drugs such as heroin and marijuana. Considering that this is a place where many military families may come to learn about the subject, we should include a line or a disclaimer which states that liberals and their anti-military stances can lead to psychological distress amongst our Fighting Men and Women, and potentially suicide. [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 09:58, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
We should include some information about demoralization due to anti-war politician's activities. During Vietnam, many soldiers began to doubt the cause they were fighting for due to the debate that raged at home, and many turned to drugs such as heroin and marijuana. Considering that this is a place where many military families may come to learn about the subject, we should include a line or a disclaimer which states that liberals and their anti-military stances can lead to psychological distress amongst our Fighting Men and Women, and potentially suicide. [[User:Mcliff|Mcliff]] 09:58, 5 October 2008 (EDT)
== Suicide is a crime? ==
I'm going to look for more information to verify this, but as far as I know, most 1st world countries do not criminalize suicide. I think it would be more accurately stated as "suicide was once considered criminal in many countries, but many of these laws have been overturned" with a list of countries in which it IS a crime. The only thing I know that is criminal about suicide in the United States (where I live) is to assist in a suicide or incite someone to suicide.
I'll try and find more information on this, but I may clean up the article (and expand to include mental illness, Durkheim, etc.) in a couple of days based on Russel's Teapot. If anyone has a problem with this, please post on my talk page or respond here -- I still unsure of the rules here, and so I don't know if Russel's Teapot is enough to back up an edit. Thanks!--[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 11:53, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
:: I don't mean to imply that Russel's Teapot is all I would be using -- just what I am using to initially begin a rewriting of the criminal aspect. I will also rely on the work of Durkheim, Alvarez, and others. I will cite my sources:) --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 11:54, 12 October 2008 (EDT)
::: Have you read the other comments above about this point? And how is [[Russell's teapot]] relevant to this? [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 05:19, 13 October 2008 (EDT)