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Since 25-50% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage (most often Early Pregnancy Loss) while induced abortions only occur in a subset of the remaining pregnancies, shouldn't 'miscarriage' be listed as the leading cause of death in the U.S., rather than induced abortion?--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] 10:23, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
Since 25-50% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage (most often Early Pregnancy Loss) while induced abortions only occur in a subset of the remaining pregnancies, shouldn't 'miscarriage' be listed as the leading cause of death in the U.S., rather than induced abortion?--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] 10:23, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
: It might be useful to include that information. I think many people are surprised that, sadly, one in five pregnancies end in miscarriage. Including miscarriage rates will give a context/comparison. BTW - PJR - I didn't remove that second fact in my last edit. I combined it with the first, and changed the language a bit to clarify. (I put in your numerical change when I updated.) When I first read this article, I thought that the fact was referring to maternal deaths from abortion. Thus the clarification. We should probably clarify the Spain statistic as well. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:38, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
: It might be useful to include that information. I think many people are surprised that, sadly, one in five pregnancies end in miscarriage. Including miscarriage rates will give a context/comparison. BTW - PJR - I didn't remove that second fact in my last edit. I combined it with the first, and changed the language a bit to clarify. (I put in your numerical change when I updated.) When I first read this article, I thought that the fact was referring to maternal deaths from abortion. Thus the clarification. We should probably clarify the Spain statistic as well. --[[User:Hsmom|Hsmom]] 10:38, 14 October 2008 (EDT)
:: Hsmom, you kept the 1.3 million, but it now reads "about nearly"! And you removed the hourly figure, which I felt was useful to show. I didn't realise that the (former) second point could be read as referring to maternal deaths, but the problem I have with the altered wording is that it sounds like whether or not abortions are counted as deaths is an arbitrary decision ("''If'' abortions are recognized as deaths...").
:: Are miscarriages 25-50% (Brossa) or 20% (Hsmom)? I can't quickly find an accurate figure on abortions per pregnancy, but it appears that it could be around the 20% figure, in which case it might be true that abortions exceed miscarriages.
:: [[User:Philip J. Rayment|Philip J. Rayment]] 11:03, 14 October 2008 (EDT)