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::Well, for a start there's the sworn testimony of former Alaskan State Trooper Colonel Julia Grimes.  In volume I of the [http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20081010_TROOPER.pdf investigation report], pages 10-11, there are statements from her as to how she was contacted by both Todd and Sarah Palin on separate occasions.  The Palins recounted examples of what they considered discipline-worthy conduct on the part of Trooper Woten (Palin's brother-in-law).  Todd Palin had no official right to make calls like he did on behalf of the Governor, and Colonel Grimes cited Alaska Statute AS.39.25.080 to Mr. Palin, as part of explaining why state employees are prohibited from discussing personnel issues with anyone else.  It was cutting off the conversation with Todd Plain that led to the follow-up call from Sarah Palin, in which Gimes testified of Palin: "Her questions were how can a trooper that behaves this way still be working and was concerned that we were taking this seriously and that we cared".  I'm not going cut-and-paste additional excerpts of the report since it's available via the link, but anyone who reads it can see the pattern of additional improper questioning and intervention by Todd Palin and pressure by Governor Palin.  Sarah Palin is politically smart enough to avoid breaking the law (which the report properly concluded she didn't), but the pattern of her actions was a violation of her trust per the Alaskan Statutes.  --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 18:45, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
 
::Well, for a start there's the sworn testimony of former Alaskan State Trooper Colonel Julia Grimes.  In volume I of the [http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/pdf/politics/20081010_TROOPER.pdf investigation report], pages 10-11, there are statements from her as to how she was contacted by both Todd and Sarah Palin on separate occasions.  The Palins recounted examples of what they considered discipline-worthy conduct on the part of Trooper Woten (Palin's brother-in-law).  Todd Palin had no official right to make calls like he did on behalf of the Governor, and Colonel Grimes cited Alaska Statute AS.39.25.080 to Mr. Palin, as part of explaining why state employees are prohibited from discussing personnel issues with anyone else.  It was cutting off the conversation with Todd Plain that led to the follow-up call from Sarah Palin, in which Gimes testified of Palin: "Her questions were how can a trooper that behaves this way still be working and was concerned that we were taking this seriously and that we cared".  I'm not going cut-and-paste additional excerpts of the report since it's available via the link, but anyone who reads it can see the pattern of additional improper questioning and intervention by Todd Palin and pressure by Governor Palin.  Sarah Palin is politically smart enough to avoid breaking the law (which the report properly concluded she didn't), but the pattern of her actions was a violation of her trust per the Alaskan Statutes.  --[[User:DinsdaleP|DinsdaleP]] 18:45, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
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::: I fully agree with Dimsdale here. I think the article reflects what he has said, I have said, and what the report has said with adequate documentation as to who authored it and the campaign's issues with the handling of the investigation. To be honest, this was not really an "October surprise" and I doubt it will come to much as the findings were relatively mild in the scheme of things. Dinsdale provides more than enough sufficient commentary on this subject. --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 19:25, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
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::: I fully agree with Dinsdale here. I think the article reflects what he has said, I have said, and what the report has said with adequate documentation as to who authored it and the campaign's issues with the handling of the investigation. To be honest, this was not really an "October surprise" and I doubt it will come to much as the findings were relatively mild in the scheme of things. Dinsdale provides more than enough sufficient commentary on this subject. --[[User:Limbo|Limbo]] 19:25, 16 October 2008 (EDT)
    
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